Do you use LOOP MODE? (how often)

So I got into the mpc world on the XL and have been on the 4000 for a while now. I told my gf's nephew i'd help him out if he got into the game, 15 and watching araabmuzik youtube vids, want's to try his hand. I got him a nice XL off craigslist. So he asks me the other day, "What is loop mode?"

I know what it is, you hold it down and it loops. I gave him an instructional video i acquired through a craigslist deal and hadn't watched. You know, they guy is like, "...and this is loop mode... wah-la" And i'm thinking, yea, he's got a bar of a drum break looped, i'd just hit it again as a one-shot if i needed it to repeat for another bar.

I feel like something is escaping me, like i'm missing something. I really NEVER use this feature, and I'm man enough to admit it.

Is my craft missing an essential piece? is there some other application that i'm overlooking? Please let me know.

yeah you set the start and end for the loop.. turn the mode on... hold the pad.. it loops..

it will be stuck on note off when loop mode is turned on though. also worth checking is setting the decay in the params screen so it tails off if I remember correctly.. it has been a while.

also worth looking at is using loop mode like this dude:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j42SdmiU0kg

mr_debauch wrote:also worth looking at is using loop mode like this dude:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j42SdmiU0kg

Wow I remember seeing this bid when I was new to the xl. That's deffinatley one application.

i use loop mode is so i dont have to timestretch, this was a real eye opener when i learned this.

so like davinci said, you can just loop a small portion, or (at least on jjos 2xl) you can have alternate loop modes, so it will play one part of the sample all the way through, then the second section of it will continously loop over depending on your release settings.

check out this video on the mv 8000. he kinda breaks down what im talking about, i always use this video as an example for someone trying to grasp exactly what loop mode, or alternate loop mode is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMxxsl5PXLI

yeah you can do that on the xl i believe

i use loop mode is so i dont have to timestretch

exactly
loop mode = elastic audio on the mpc.

i've posted this video a lot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbqXKwXoImc

damien907 wrote:you can have alternate loop modes, so it will play one part of the sample all the way through, then the second section of it will continously loop over depending on your release settings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMxxsl5PXLI

mmmm k. so you can do this only on the jjos? Because when i first messed with it, this is what I was trying to do in my mind, like the sound plays and then it loops the tail end section until you release. I think i just heard it on "run this town" where kanye uses it on the vocal sample, he catches the guy doing like a vocal-run and it's looping. I showed this kid the sample to try and demonstrate it.

So instead of time-stretching, you can lock in the loop and then what? When you change the master tempo, the loop will stretch and compress to fit the song?

Nym wrote:

i use loop mode is so i dont have to timestretch

exactly
loop mode = elastic audio on the mpc.

i've posted this video a lot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbqXKwXoImc

.....right. so i have been slacking.

Mastakilla wrote:
So instead of time-stretching, you can lock in the loop and then what? When you change the master tempo, the loop will stretch and compress to fit the song?

exactly, so if my original tempo was around 90 and i wanted the beat to be 85, you just do this to all the chops and it will loop the last section of each chop until the next one cuts it off.

you have to play with the release setting though, usually around 75 to 85-90 works great.

if you have your release at something small like 20, the whole sample wont ever play out, when you bring it up to 90 it loops out near for quite awhile while still having a nice very gradual fade out effect. and at 100 it wil loop forever, but sometimes your chops sound a little jagged because the previous one never faded out at all.

when i learned this it opened up my eyes to whole new avenues i could take my beats down.
it used to be very time consuming timestretching every chop to the same exact grid, and i would have to redo chops alot because i wanted to make my beat a little faster and slower.

this is probably one of the single most helpful things i have ever learned during my production years. dont get me wrong timestretching was as well, but when i learned about that i wish i knew about this as well.

sometimes you get a sample that just sounds like shit timestreched, and i used to just not mess with those anymore, now i have the option of going back and trying to flip those samples that were 10-15 bpm too slow/fast.

- As a 'time-stretch'future
- To extend single notes
- To make bass out of bassdrum sounds

How often? Don't really keep up with that. I do it when it needs to be done for the sample to fit the beat.