Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
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By thgrandfatherparadox Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:41 am
Hi guys,

Sorry if this is the wrong sub forum, but it is relating to JJOS2XL.

A friend I know has been putting a night on at a local, small club every few months and is looking for new acts. I need to put a demo together, but I have a slight issue.

I perform my tracks/songs live from my synth, a 777, a TR-707 and my MPC1000 sequences everything through MIDI so I can use track mutes, etc. Basically, I have about 20 individual tracks I'm happy with, but need to know how I can perform a seamless, flowing set without breaking between each track.

My question is, is this possible using the latest version of JJOS2XL? All my tracks are saved as individual projects on my MPC's CF card - ideas I'm toying with at the moment are:

> perform a track, when it finishes roll into a 707 drum solo while I load the next song from the MPC and fade it in with my studio mixer

> load all individual tracks/projects into one project so I can put each song onto one sequence and use next sequence to go between each one - however I don't think it would sound smooth enough when there's big differences between individual songs BPM. And, this would be pretty time consuming as I would have to construct and copy/paste which would be very fiddly.

> JJOS2XL is now multi-timbral - is this only for DAWs though, as I do not use any software/PC/laptop in my live setup

Can anybody suggest anything else here, it would be much appreciated!

Thanks in advance
By dtaa pla muk Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:31 pm
> load all individual tracks/projects into one project so I can put each song onto one sequence and use next sequence to go between each one - however I don't think it would sound smooth enough when there's big differences between individual songs BPM. And, this would be pretty time consuming as I would have to construct and copy/paste which would be very fiddly.


this is what i'm in the process of doing. i'll go into more detail when i get to work.
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By m:t:c Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:28 pm
> JJOS2XL is now multi-timbral - is this only for DAWs though, as I do not use any software/PC/laptop in my live setup


Well you could have another sequencer and use MPC just as a sound module
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By bliprock Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:05 pm
I have done this a bit. A few things to point out is that if you want to use different FX or programs in each song (sequence) then you need to save them with names that do not conflict ie the same name. So different names for FX, programs and all samples. A pain but worth it.
If you go to the load screen in JJOSXL and load a sequence then you will be presented with a screen and a choice about what you want to load - MIDI sequence or FX ect. This is where organization really helps. So start with first song loaded then load from sequence your next song into the next sequence, it does ask you, from memory, and defaults to empty sequence as well. So if your FX are named right you can load that to for the sequence as well from load screen and if it is a different number FX (from memory, you might have to have name to identify or just have it saved in next number FX slot). Do this and make sure every program you want to use is loaded next. This wont work if you want two programs that are different but named the same. you cant load both, so every projects programs have to be named different. Same with samlpes. You dont want naming conflicts so you need to make sure every sample has a unique name. Easy as :shock: do this and you can go crazy. i do do this a bit and though its a pain it is worth it. If you have issues with BPM then maybe intro sequences or breakdown. Not just into next song, just like a band does yeah
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By Si-Tone Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:33 pm
I would recommend adding an SP404 to your setup.

You can play whole finished songs, or interludes or intros etc on the 404 while the mpc1000 is loading your next tune. the 404 also gives you some decent FX to incorporate live.
It plays straight off Compact flash so no worries about sample time etc.

Personally I tried and failed to load everything into the mpc at once. Ram limitations meant I couldn't pull it off without major sacrifices.
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By bliprock Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:57 am
Yeah I can make sets that go for hours as i am using the sequencer to make songs yeah. So no sample loops or anything like that saves heaps of RAM. Depends I know on what ya doing sample wise but if you just use loops ect then you will be limited by the RAM> IF you use sequencer and smaller samples then it goes for longer. I use synths well so thats less samples as well. But with just MPC and synths i can make sets that go for an hour or more, and still not run out of RAM.
Si-Tones idea is good, but not really work around or solution to OPs question, inso much as it means more money. It can be done as i described above - yeah its a bit of work, do not be shy of a bit of work, thats life. Get in there and try the method i said above. works very well and you can still mute and change sequences any time you want..... meaning you can mix it up durring live gigs and not always be the same.
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By thgrandfatherparadox Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:42 am
Thanks for the replies so far, glad to see I'm thinking along the same lines as you all.

The SP 404 looks interesting, but I would rather spend the money on a new synth or a bigger studio mixer. However, I have 4 channels of multi timbrality with my synth which means pads, strings/leads all run in real time 4 bar loops so i can mute them in and out and still have control of the filters and envelopes in real time as well (the active track feature in pad mute screen was such a good addition for this).


I tend to avoid sampling other than short vocals or sound effects, and I think sampling my pads/strings etc in to the MPC would limit me live, and I'm wary of hitting RAM limitation and long loading times if there's too much.

I'm going to try loading five or six projects in one project all together to start with and see how I can work with the blending of sequences. It's worth the grind at the end of the day.

Thanks a lot for the assistance so far, it's all been really helpful.

Bliprock - some nice tunes by the way, really liked the Buju sample.
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By bliprock Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:55 am
cheers thgrandfatherparadox - thats all done with just MPC and a couple of synths. plenty of RAM left to do a couple more with out having to stop and load, if I program more drums intros, outros ect. i am tying to stretch it out to at least half an hour to forty five minutes, maybe an hour. If its just drums and midi it can go forever......
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By thgrandfatherparadox Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:42 pm
Thanks for all that provided answers to this thread, much appreciated!

I've put two short sets together, certainly nothing special for first attempts, but see what you think. Any questions just let me know.

Anybody else got any sets uploaded to share to this thread, would be great to hear what other people are doing?





Cheers