Andy Mac open to discussions

xparis001 wrote:

DJ Hellfire wrote:

Ill-Green wrote:Will I be able to wet the incoming signal with the Ren's effect?
I guess not huh Mr. Mac.

Being that the software will not have audio tracks, I would guess the answer is no!

you can apply them afterwards and resample, but sampling with effects wont be possible in the first release. not a bad idea for an update, tho...

Wow, yet another omission of something you can already do in Maschine...

Hi Andy

welcome to the board

I really enjoyed your video at NAMM, especially the bit where you mentioned no longer having to go thru 50 screens to change one parameter, this has been the news I've been waiting for all these years

why have you decided to put all your resources into new models and leave out the mpc5000 flagship and other standalone models?
I hear the mpc5000 may get an os update, but why has this taken three years? Would it not be possible to take two coders off the ren line and help deliver the long awaited os for the mpc5k a little earlier, or is your focus on new customers as oppossed to existing customers?
Have you offered JJ his old job back? With maybe a promotion for saving the mpc1k and mpc25k line?

Why do akai reps only appear on this forum when new products are about to come out, or just come out...and then disappear? I know some of em get flack...but its only cos people have spent hard earned money on machine which then have bugs

ps befoe i get, please tory to keep xparis001 as an employee

pps if youre looking for new employees dcook97(us) and scoobylol (uk) would love to work for you....hint hint

emptysea wrote:

xparis001 wrote:you can apply them afterwards and resample, but sampling with effects wont be possible in the first release. not a bad idea for an update, tho...

Wow, yet another omission of something you can already do in Maschine...

Emptysea...so how do you sample incoming audio with effects in Maschine? It is easy with the MPC 5000/2500/1000 as you have the input thru function and the MPC 4000 wit its Quick FXs. I can't find an easy whaw to do this on Maschine.

JAH wrote:

emptysea wrote:Wow, yet another omission of something you can already do in Maschine...

Emptysea...so how do you sample incoming audio with effects in Maschine?

Select a sound (pad 1 for example) and select EXT IN 1 as Source and load effects. Then select another sound, press the SAMPLING button, and select INTERN as Source and INPUT 1 as Input.

emptysea wrote:

JAH wrote:

emptysea wrote:Wow, yet another omission of something you can already do in Maschine...

Emptysea...so how do you sample incoming audio with effects in Maschine?

Select a sound (pad 1 for example) and select EXT IN 1 as Source and load effects. Then select another sound, press the SAMPLING button, and select INTERN as Source and INPUT 1 as Input.

And this is the method used to add effects to incoming audio to sample? Any tutorials? Because this is hard to follow and the manual is no help.

They way companies need to implement effects so that it is user friendly is to simply have an Insert Effect button front and center in the sampling mode/menu. It should be right next to the sample source select. Users should be able to dial in the Insert FX and press record. It doesn't get any easier than this.

JAH wrote:

emptysea wrote:

JAH wrote:so how do you sample incoming audio with effects in Maschine?

Select a sound (pad 1 for example) and select EXT IN 1 as Source and load effects. Then select another sound, press the SAMPLING button, and select INTERN as Source and INPUT 1 as Input.

And this is the method used to add effects to incoming audio to sample? Any tutorials? Because this is hard to follow and the manual is no help.

Dude, it's all basics covered in the manual. You have external audio on a pad with effects and another pad sampling it.

emptysea wrote:Dude, it's all basics covered in the manual. You have external audio on a pad with effects and another pad sampling it.

What do you need two pads for? That sounds like resampling a pad with effects....which is much different than inserting effects into an incoming audio signal and recording it/assiging to a pad.


Edit - I got it. The manual explains it slightly better but the implementation is not great...not very user friendly. It needs to be simple like I described above. Or like the input thru functions on the MPC 5000/2500/1000 or Quick Effects on the MPC 4000.

JAH wrote:

emptysea wrote:Dude, it's all basics covered in the manual. You have external audio on a pad with effects and another pad sampling it.

What do you need two pads for? That sounds like resampling a pad with effects....which is much different than inserting effects into an incoming audio signal and recording it/assiging to a pad.

What you're doing is sampling an incoming audio signal after applying effects to it. Something that these new MPCs can't do.

emptysea wrote:

JAH wrote:

emptysea wrote:Dude, it's all basics covered in the manual. You have external audio on a pad with effects and another pad sampling it.

What do you need two pads for? That sounds like resampling a pad with effects....which is much different than inserting effects into an incoming audio signal and recording it/assiging to a pad.

What you're doing is sampling an incoming audio signal after applying effects to it. Something that these new MPCs can't do.

I get it. And Maschine would get some props if it was implemented more user friendly like the MPC 2500/1000. I see no benefit to the way Maschine does it. It is much simpler to just record your audio to a pad in Maschine and then use the 3 effect slots to add effects. Then I can just resample the pad. The other way you described isn't appealing.

scoobylol wrote:Welcome to the boards Andy, nice to have you here mate. Good work on your demo by the way, I mentioned it somewhere else but it was the most concise I'd seen in terms of listing the features and their uses.

I asked in another thread, but I'd just like to know a bit more detail about the emulations and how they work.

What process did the tech heads go through to model the emulations for example? Feel free to be as nerdy as humanly possible with all this.

Also, are there any videos floating round that show any of the new series being used to do the bread and butter MPC functions. Sampling, chopping and a quick sequence for example, but without the computer screen being on. I know it sounds a bit odd, but I'd really like to see a demo of how useful the hardware is if you choose to work without your main monitor on.

Bump...

xparis001 wrote:

b.read wrote:

xparis001 wrote:
you can apply them afterwards and resample, but sampling with effects wont be possible in the first release. not a bad idea for an update, tho...

Interesting...when auditioning samples from a source into the ren, is there any way to alter the sound (changing pitch for example) before actually capturing the sample?

no, there isnt. not sure how that would work, really.

Me either....worth a shot though.

JAH wrote:It is much simpler to just record your audio to a pad in Maschine and then use the 3 effect slots to add effects.

Glad you brought this up! Andy and Dan, speaking of Maschine's effects slots, on Maschine, just having a sample on a pad uses one effects slot since a pad, sound and track are all one in the same. Is this the same with Ren?

Also, how are you guys approaching the whole 64-bit thing? Will we have a 64-bit app, as well as a 64-bit bridge for all of our 32-bit plugins?

DJ Hellfire wrote:

JAH wrote:It is much simpler to just record your audio to a pad in Maschine and then use the 3 effect slots to add effects.

Glad you brought this up! Andy and Dan, speaking of Maschine's effects slots, on Maschine, just having a sample on a pad uses one effects slot since a pad, sound and track are all one in the same. Is this the same with Ren?

Also, how are you guys approaching the whole 64-bit thing? Will we have a 64-bit app, as well as a 64-bit bridge for all of our 32-bit plugins?

with maschine when u assign a sample or vst to a pad u still have 3 additional slots for fx.

jpeg wrote:

DJ Hellfire wrote:

JAH wrote:It is much simpler to just record your audio to a pad in Maschine and then use the 3 effect slots to add effects.

Glad you brought this up! Andy and Dan, speaking of Maschine's effects slots, on Maschine, just having a sample on a pad uses one effects slot since a pad, sound and track are all one in the same. Is this the same with Ren?

Also, how are you guys approaching the whole 64-bit thing? Will we have a 64-bit app, as well as a 64-bit bridge for all of our 32-bit plugins?

with maschine when u assign a sample or vst to a pad u still have 3 additional slots for fx.

Yeah, I know, I said that. I'm asking if on the Ren, will a sample use an entire effects slot like Maschine does!

b.read wrote:

xparis001 wrote:

b.read wrote:Interesting...when auditioning samples from a source into the ren, is there any way to alter the sound (changing pitch for example) before actually capturing the sample?

no, there isnt. not sure how that would work, really.

Me either....worth a shot though.

delay the input by a small buffer and get yer phase vocode on