Andy Mac open to discussions

xparis001 wrote:3. yes. in program edit on a midi track, you have 96 assignable controls. you can set them to any midi CC you want. this is automatable and it saves with the current project. It just occured to me that it wuld be aswesome to save presets here, so you could have, say an access virus preset or a nord lead preset or whaever... hmm.

Thats a winner of an idea. Would make me want to buy one, with this added versatility.

^second that!

2 Questions...


1. On the hardware screenshot there are 5 mode buttons. "Song" has its own dedicated button but "Sample Rec" is a shift function. Why is this?

2. Will we be able to deselect plugins so they don't show up in the list of available effects?

In Cubase the plugins branch out quite nicely into separate columns so it's ok, but Maschine has one continuous column and it's a pain in the arse to navigate through them. Especially with Waves as there's mono and stereo versions of each plugin, and if you've got AU and VST versions installed it starts to get ridiculous!

It'd be much smoother and more efficient to be able to select your favourites and ditch the rest until you hit your regular daw.

Coz wrote:2 Questions...


1. On the hardware screenshot there are 5 mode buttons. "Song" has its own dedicated button but "Sample Rec" is a shift function. Why is this?

pressure from the RIAA

1. after discussion with several producers, the function buttons are the ones most used when working. The shift functions are for the ones that are less used. This final list was actually the work of Bruce Forat. The thought is that people bounce into song mode, render as sequences and keep going, so one button access is nice, where if someone's sampling, they usually enter the mode, record a bunch of samples, then leave, so a shift function is ok.

2. there will be a master list, but when you load in a vst, that vst is added to a quick list, and added to the project browser on the left. you can drag and drop if from there on any track you want. you can then save that whole project as a file or make it your autoload. so in theory, you could have many different super-sets of plugins, depending on your need.

Coz wrote:2 Questions...



2. Will we be able to deselect plugins so they don't show up in the list of available effects?

In Cubase the plugins branch out quite nicely into separate columns so it's ok, but Maschine has one continuous column and it's a pain in the arse to navigate through them. Especially with Waves as there's mono and stereo versions of each plugin, and if you've got AU and VST versions installed it starts to get ridiculous!

It'd be much smoother and more efficient to be able to select your favourites and ditch the rest until you hit your regular daw.

Or just categorize them by plugin type and/or manufacturer like Pro Tools does. Super easy!

xparis001 wrote:1. after discussion with several producers, the function buttons are the ones most used when working. The shift functions are for the ones that are less used. This final list was actually the work of Bruce Forat. The thought is that people bounce into song mode, render as sequences and keep going, so one button access is nice, where if someone's sampling, they usually enter the mode, record a bunch of samples, then leave, so a shift function is ok.

This makes a lot of sense. You probably only spend 2% of the beat making process actually recording samples.

I may be reaching but hell,How about chord memory or a build in Chorder and since the RENs looks r based on the 3k how about a black version like the limited version 3k.sample a shift function ,huh?.everytime I turn on my Mpc I sample.when I sample drums that can be a all day ,all week thing.like the no waveform on the ren LCD your group of producers may have been mistaken on this also...no disrespect.

Edit: on second thought since this thing can use mp3s and import various sample formats I guess sampling may not be all that important.I'll be sampling a lot less.
Blog sites here I come.....I'm such a sell out

First of all thanks for being so forward with the info. I wish other manufactures would take note and provide the more pre-sales/release info. It goes a long way.

Anyway...Got a couple quick questions about VSTi's :

1.) How will a multi out vsti be handled in the MPC software?

2.) Will we be able to bounce VSTi's to audio tracks.

I ask because I'm current using BPM for most of my work and then I bring it into Sonar to embellish, swap sounds and finish things off. I plan to move to the MPC Ren and would like to bring some ideas and complete songs over with me.

Again, thanks for taking our questions.

mpcrenfan wrote:First of all thanks for being so forward with the info. I wish other manufactures would take note and provide the more pre-sales/release info. It goes a long way.

Anyway...Got a couple quick questions about VSTi's :

1.) How will a multi out vsti be handled in the MPC software?

2.) Will we be able to bounce VSTi's to audio tracks.

I ask because I'm current using BPM for most of my work and then I bring it into Sonar to embellish, swap sounds and finish things off. I plan to move to the MPC Ren and would like to bring some ideas and complete songs over with me.

Again, thanks for taking our questions.

Both of these features are probably going to be implemented the same way.

On our initial release, we're only going to be supporting 2 channels on VSTs, because we wont have audio tracks to route them to. In an update soon after we will be implementing audio tracks, then it will be a matter of setting your source to one of the VST's outs.

xparis001 wrote:

mpcrenfan wrote:First of all thanks for being so forward with the info. I wish other manufactures would take note and provide the more pre-sales/release info. It goes a long way.

Anyway...Got a couple quick questions about VSTi's :

1.) How will a multi out vsti be handled in the MPC software?

2.) Will we be able to bounce VSTi's to audio tracks.

I ask because I'm current using BPM for most of my work and then I bring it into Sonar to embellish, swap sounds and finish things off. I plan to move to the MPC Ren and would like to bring some ideas and complete songs over with me.

Again, thanks for taking our questions.

Both of these features are probably going to be implemented the same way.

On our initial release, we're only going to be supporting 2 channels on VSTs, because we wont have audio tracks to route them to. In an update soon after we will be implementing audio tracks, then it will be a matter of setting your source to one of the VST's outs.

Thanks. That was the exact implementation I was hoping for. Sounds like you guys really have done your homework are not going to half do anything. Soooooo looking forward the MPC Ren. Been waiting a long time for product like this.

since the Ren is its own audio device, will it be able to sample the computer internal audio?

for example, I have a movie running on my PC, and I want to sample a dialogue or anything else, or I'm playing a MP3 and I want to sample it, or a youtube video running in background.

do we just need to set something like "record from: internal" or do we need a separate audio interface and plug it's outs to the ins of the Ren, as if it was any other audio source?

ansiaaa wrote:since the Ren is its own audio device, will it be able to sample the computer internal audio?

for example, I have a movie running on my PC, and I want to sample a dialogue or anything else, or I'm playing a MP3 and I want to sample it, or a youtube video running in background.

do we just need to set something like "record from: internal" or do we need a separate audio interface and plug it's outs to the ins of the Ren, as if it was any other audio source?

This is usually only possible with a third party app. They have something like this for Maschine, but it's only for Mac. I think it's called Sunflower. Otherwise, you can just run your computer's onboard audio output into Ren's input!

DJ Hellfire wrote:This is usually only possible with a third party app. They have something like this for Maschine, but it's only for Mac. I think it's called Sunflower

"soundflower".

in combination with "sound source" is an excellent setup on mac.

DJ Hellfire wrote:

ansiaaa wrote:since the Ren is its own audio device, will it be able to sample the computer internal audio?

for example, I have a movie running on my PC, and I want to sample a dialogue or anything else, or I'm playing a MP3 and I want to sample it, or a youtube video running in background.

do we just need to set something like "record from: internal" or do we need a separate audio interface and plug it's outs to the ins of the Ren, as if it was any other audio source?

This is usually only possible with a third party app. They have something like this for Maschine, but it's only for Mac. I think it's called Sunflower. Otherwise, you can just run your computer's onboard audio output into Ren's input!

that's not completely correct. with the right audio interface, you can record the computer internal audio.
on Maschine it depends only if u have one of those or not.

most of the audio interfaces coming out lately are able to do it.
that's what I want to know, if the audio interface in the Ren has this ability or not.