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ansiaaa wrote:

DJ Hellfire wrote:What I'm saying is it has nothing to do with the hardware. It will have to be something Akai writes into their software. If they add it to their software then the hardware won't matter, since the function takes place on a software level. It would be able to do it with or without the hardware! The hardware doesn't actually 'record' any audio. It just passes audio through the external inputs to the software's internal inputs. The interface itself isn't taking system audio and passing it through to the DAW. It has to be some included software or bridge that does it. Most of these interfaces are ASIO driven, so two applications cannot playback audio through them at the same time. Therefore, your interface cannot playback system audio the DAW is also accessing record/playback of the interface. Maybe coreaudio on mac is different, but this is the case on PC. So what I'm saying is if I'm using Cubase for example, and my interface, which is 3rd party, comes with software that allows me to pass system audio into Cubase, that is a 3rd party solution, unless Cubase is the one that supplies the app that allows this. What I'm saying about Maschine is that it is automatically 3rd party because any interface you use with Maschine is 3rd party.

I tell you again, I know how that stuff work...
it depends both on the driver of the audio interface AND the actual audio interface itself.

you don't necessarely have to use 3rd party softwares or some kind of options to do it.
as long as the audio interface (hardware + its driver) is design to do it, it will work in your DAW.

for example, my audio device at home is a firewire mixer/soundcard.
I have my pc internal audio set to output 1/2, that routes inside the soundcard and then goes to my monitors.

if I go in Ableton Live, and I want to record the audio from a youtube video, I simply tell Ableton to record from input 1/2, while outputting Ableton Live to, for example, output 7/8.

simple as that.

OK, but isn't your interface/mixer 3rd Party to Ableton? Or did Ableton also manufacture your interface? What I'm saying is Ableton did not supply you with that function. Whoever made your interface did. I'm betting the interface you are using came with some type of matrix software that allows you to configure the i/o routing outside of Ableton?!

Blue Haze wrote:1) Hey Dan or Andy are you guys going to label the pads 13, 14, 15, and 16 like my 4k like loop, play start, play end, and etc for sample editing?

2) Hmmm why are there two qlink buttons? The Qlink trigger is used for what opposed to qlink under the program button?

1. the pad functions are going to be expanded, so those labels are invalid. they're going to change depending on whether you want to play the pads by slice or by the other way, but we've added more to that as well. more details coming soon.

2. qliink trigger, when on, wil lallow you to toggle the qlink's min/max by just touching it. you can use it to trigger effects, filters, whatever.

DJ Hellfire wrote:OK, but isn't your interface/mixer 3rd Party to Ableton? Or did Ableton also manufacture your interface? What I'm saying is Ableton did not supply you with that function. Whoever made your interface did. I'm betting the interface you are using came with some type of matrix software that allows you to configure the i/o routing outside of Ableton?!

I said 2 or 3 times that I KNOW that the DAW doesn't have that function but it's the interface that does.
that's exactly what you are saying!

the only difference is that you say that the interface needs something to configure the routing and I'm telling you that most of the newest ones don't need that.
if the interface support that feature, then it's all in the driver.

you don't have some software installed with the driver with which you have to deal with when you want to route the internal audio to some software (like the sunflower you mentioned).

I told you. with my M-Audio NRV10, I just tell Windows to use its 1/2 outputs and I'm done. I just have to go in Ableton Live, tell it to record from input 1/2 and it'll record whatever it's going on in background: a movie, mp3, youtube...
I just need to tell Ableton to output itself to different outs, like 7/8.

I had another audio interface by Roland that have that same feature even if it has only 2 outs. the only problem is that if I'm recording from it, I need to have everything in my DAW stopped, or it'll record those things as well, since I'm recording the main outs.

and neither of them use any software or plug-in or else to do that. it's a built-in feature controlled by their own drivers.

I hope it's clear now

REN = a MIDI controller + a daw + an audio interface.
am I right?
since the Ren has its own audio interface... I'd love to know if that interface will be able to let me work the same way, but obviously in the Ren software.

xparis001 wrote:1. the pad functions are going to be expanded, so those labels are invalid. they're going to change depending on whether you want to play the pads by slice or by the other way, but we've added more to that as well. more details coming soon.

this answer actually gives me hope about my suggestion! fingers crossed...

@ansiaaa: I asked this question about resampling intern also three times now, but no answer. That's the only thing I want to know, I would like to resample a pc recorded sample again with the mpc3000 feature intern without a second interface.

rondonone wrote:@ansiaaa: I asked this question about resampling intern also three times now, but no answer. That's the only thing I want to know, I would like to resample a pc recorded sample again with the mpc3000 feature intern without a second interface.

its not that im ignoring you, it's just that we're in driver flux right now.

soon.

Alright

JAH wrote:And I was under the impression that most MPCs (MPC 500, 1000, 2000, 2000XL, 2500, 5000) you have to either press Shift + Button or Shift + Pad to access the sampling mode.

I can see you haven't done a lot of sampling with those machines you owned.

Consecutive button presses aren't the issue (Mode then pad or button). Simultaneous button presses are.

JAH wrote:But it would be a cool option if Shift + Number buttons were customizable shortcuts to particular menus/modes.

'Numeric key assign' with JJ is probably the reason I'm speaking up about this.

I've gone from the XL with all the shift commands to the 2500 with the Mode way of working, and finally onto my 10 assigned modes on the number pad. No shift+button or mode+pad. One button press. Bang!

Blue Haze wrote:As much as you send in these threads recently I think deep down too you will get one eventually.

I've only really commented on the lack of waveform editing and this as things that I don't like. Oh, and lack of true standalone, but that's a gimme for a lot of people! I am (believe it or not) quietly impressed with a lot of the design elements. I totally get the product and see how my workflow could benefit from it.

When the Ren drops I will have a grand in the bank, but it's up to Akai to part me with it.

xparis001 wrote:That picture is preliminary, the main and shift buttons are going to change places.

If the sample record button has to remain a secondary shift function, at least consider switching the placement of it with the Q-link button. That way neither right or left handers will be compromised because the two buttons will be so close together and shift will be directly underneath.

having it grouped with sample edit just makes more sense. I think we'll compromise by moving the main and shift button to make all the shift modes easier.

we've been using them here, and this seems like the best solution.

That's still awkward for left handed use, but yeah, whatever man. I've made my point.

Dan,When can we expect some behind the scenes or making of the renaissance videos lol

I feel the numeric buttons could be sacrificed for other main functions. It hogs space and you use it only to get precise entries so it is easy enough to hold a single numeric key. I know some use it a lot but most beat makers I have seen rarely touch the numeric keys. Bring back the dedicated t.c toggle, sampling, and add a duplicate button. I know people will be split on this but that's my 2cents.