AKAI FINALLY! what this means for music production.

...two facts....

the new soft mpc's will NEVER EVER reach the tightness of the old hardware sequencers....

even if version 1.0 has no bugs at all, that push and play rock solid here we go feeling will never return.....no chance...

and when mpc was designed for the first time, by roger linn, it was NO HIP HOP background instrument AT ALL.....

ten years later, when they became affordable because of used ones out there to buy, it slowly became an instrument used by hiphoppers....because of one simple fact....you can get tight basic tracks with real groove out of it, even without any music skills....

reeloy wrote:
and when mpc was designed for the first time, by roger linn, it was NO HIP HOP background instrument AT ALL.....

So not true at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibac3vaWP04

Check You Tube and look at all the Beat King videos....

labcoats wrote:

zeeno0987 wrote:The MPC represents Hip Hop. In no shape form or fashion, I am not a endorser of Akai.This is my thoughts and experience with the MPC. I used the MPC when it first came out and witnessed it blossomed into this.Some may have jumped on board around the 3000,2000,1000,or 2500.I can't count how many times I had one and sold it. I remember selling D-Dot my MPC 60 when he was Howard because I loved my SP1200 more.But what kept me coming back to the MPC was how tight the sequencer was.People say that it has a swing like no other but it's how tight the sequencer records that people love. I got into software early 10 years ago and missed the tightness of the sequencer that most DAWS don't offer.I bought Maschine in hopes to get that tightness of a sequencer that the MPC had and was dissappointed and sold Maschine.I love working in software but maschine sequencer was buggy to me but yet FL studio sequence was tight as Maschine.But after going from software back to MPC I felt limited because instead of chopping a sample into 40 or 80 pieces in software effortlessly, I was going back to the 16 or 32 chop cycle of hardware which is not how i chop.I had my thoughts set on the 5000 mths ago because of its chopping ability but the new MPC just threw a monkey wrench into that.I also know that Akai hasn't played fair with customers like when the 5000 was demoed at NAAM when it was released they had dudes doing techno beats for the demo which your brand was built on Hip Hop.(no disrespect to other music). But to get to the point this MPC represents Akai's cement footprint inside the computer along side or above the Gurus,Batterys, Maschines, and kontakts. Think about it,No more tracking out,pluggins on everything,the same sequencer but in software and not much of a learning curve.This is what most ex MPC users who converted to software have been waiting for.As for Maschine,N.I will have problems because they offered the only integrated hardware software setup which we jump on because it was the only one out that was somewhat MPCish.But know we have this coming which should change the whole playing field and expose Maschine for it's flaws that many will come to see when the new MPC is here.Just my 2 cents and yes the MPC is used for all forms of music not just Hip Hop.

I dont make Hip Hop. Dont be a music fascist dude.

Actually, after noticing the mural in the background of this Dan Gill interview, can't really blame people for feeling that way. I mean, look at the guys plastered all over the wall! You would think no other genre (or race) would know what an MPC even is!

...well, all i see in your "...so not true..." video proof is....

a fake doc.....where the same material is used twice....present day and good old times is from the same shooting....
and the only maschine from mid eighties we see, but only on a photo and not once in action, is an emu.....

Roger linn wasn't around when we was using the black rack Akai S612 samplers with them big disks lol. You must remember that the same as the SP1200, singers and rock bands were using these machines and they were using them for backing tracks.They used the DX and DMX the same way as backing tracks for drums.We took those machines and made whole songs on them samples and drums.I remember seeing the faces of engineers back then asking how did you do that on those machines because the mainly used them for drum tracks and sequencing gear. Hip Hop took the MPC and SP1200 to different levels.You must remember when the MPC touched down you had people that were groups with drummers and musicians so a drum machine was hardly used and they mostly used (simmons) drums that allowed drummers to trigger sounds. Some may make the argument that Linn did not make MPC for Hip Hop which he may not but once he seen how popular it was becoming with this new music called rap, who you think they catered it too.Another thing too,Price wasn't that much of a issue back then.We could buy the MPC 60's and SP1200 then, it was just the other gear then that was the problem,why you think you see old videos of Pete Rock ,Premo and TCQ, in the studios,cause that was the highest stuff in music game the (recording equip). WHEN I SAID THAT THE MPC ROOTS COME FROM HIP HOP (IT DOES).But dont get it twisted,music breaks boundaries and that poster Akai has up should have a more diverse line up. Exile, DAVINCI, and lot of others should be up there as well. But here is just a some opinions and history from others.



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reeloy wrote:...two facts....

the new soft mpc's will NEVER EVER reach the tightness of the old hardware sequencers....

even if version 1.0 has no bugs at all, that push and play rock solid here we go feeling will never return.....no chance...

and when mpc was designed for the first time, by roger linn, it was NO HIP HOP background instrument AT ALL.....

ten years later, when they became affordable because of used ones out there to buy, it slowly became an instrument used by hiphoppers....because of one simple fact....you can get tight basic tracks with real groove out of it, even without any music skills....

Not to be disrespectful,but we weren't buying used MPC's back then, there really wasn't a market for that in 1990-1995.There was"nt internet then, and linn made upgrades to the mpc's back then to suit people who were sampling like pad cutoff on the 60 and 60(2). I paid $2300 for mine in 1989 new.I knew people that had them then because they the ones who made me get mine.You said ten years later it became affordable? Thats like 1998? Naw my friend,We had those big MPC's in the early early 90's. The one thing you said about the sequencer is true but the gap is closing which is just a latency issue and some software does have that tightness and I feel what you talking about.

Some comments in this thread can be taken the wrong way....

Who remembers this TV show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_n9wyQMlmw

Hip-hop is the genre of music that is largely responsible for bringing sampling to the mainstream (both good and bad). Products like MPCs, SPs, 808s, ASR-10s, and Technics 1200s helped build the foundation of the hip-hop sound.

So I don't fully understand what the debate is. Akai used hip-hop producers (color of their skin not relevant) as consultants and for marketing purposes.

The reason why I purchased an MPC was because of Erick Sermon and Redman. In 1993, they were using an MPC 60. I had no idea what it was at the time. I just knew I had to get one. There was no internet...not many music production retailers as these products were not marketed to consumers. So I bought a display model JV-80 and registered with the store to receive catalogs. Fast forward to 1997, and on the front cover of American Musical catalog was the MPC 2000 Studio ($2300 approx) with a payment plan. I have been using MPCs ever since...and always will.

reeloy wrote:...two facts....

the new soft mpc's will NEVER EVER reach the tightness of the old hardware sequencers....

even if version 1.0 has no bugs at all, that push and play rock solid here we go feeling will never return.....no chance...

and when mpc was designed for the first time, by roger linn, it was NO HIP HOP background instrument AT ALL.....

ten years later, when they became affordable because of used ones out there to buy, it slowly became an instrument used by hiphoppers....because of one simple fact....you can get tight basic tracks with real groove out of it, even without any music skills....

this an opinion likely derived from the fact u have spent time and money acquiring the old units and u dont want others to get the same result with ease in a more convenient package.

....touche, touche...don't get me wrong....

all i'm sayin' is.....mpc's are with no doubt music instruments....

like a guitar.....

and not bounded to a style at all....


you get funky hip hop out of it....you get funky techno out of it....you get funky industrial out of...no wait a second, there is no such thing like funky industrial.....but whatsoever.....you name it....

JAH wrote:

reeloy wrote:
and when mpc was designed for the first time, by roger linn, it was NO HIP HOP background instrument AT ALL.....

So not true at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibac3vaWP04

Check You Tube and look at all the Beat King videos....

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Nym wrote:

The MPC sequencer is unmatched. Whatever the model.

hype alert.
talent is unmatched. sequencers are comparable if not equal.
i've seen folks get busier with mouse clicks and ACID PRO than any producer on these boards do with their mpcs.

I think the sequencer makes the man,cause man,without a sequencer,well we know the story

zeeno0987 wrote:.I had my thoughts set on the 5000 mths ago because of its chopping ability but the new MPC just threw a monkey wrench into that.I also know that Akai hasn't played fair with customers like when the 5000 was demoed at NAAM when it was released they had dudes doing techno beats for the demo which your brand was built on Hip Hop.

well said

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i know two people that are beta testers one of them said its done .. the other one said mpc r has a long way to catch up with ni machine ... that's why you don't see any new videos . i mean come on .. like i said what u saw @ nam is what your gona get ..

MONSTA wrote:i know two people that are beta testers one of them said its done .. the other one said mpc r has a long way to catch up with ni machine ... that's why you don't see any new videos . i mean come on .. like i said what u saw @ nam is what your gona get ..

I heard the opposite.