MONSTA wrote:ceasi wrote:Im just wondering how will any person route their sound, because I cant wrap my head around this theory. Your sound will actually come from the outs on the Controller, which is actually coming from the internal sounds inside of your computer ie (vst's/samples/drums). Its like would you then route the master outputs of the hardware controller, back into a usb/firewire recording interface, which is connected to the same computer the sound is originating from, and the same hard drive the original file is originally stored on ..... I just figured it out, the outs on the controller replace your interface right......... but what if you have keyboards hooked up via midi to a mixer to the recording interface, you'll have to record that into your daw some how right, therefore you can't get rid of your interface, this is something thats just been stirring my mind, something I've been thinking about. I mean Im thinking of different ways to do it now and there are ways to have all that gear hooked up, but has anyone else thought of this situation were going to run into.
took the words right outs my mouth ... thats why i keep asking for a video on sound not .. the lights / latency ..
It's really simple. You can do it one of two ways.
1. You can replace your original interface and connect the Ren straight to your monitors. This will work good for guys that just make beats and don't really require tracking to a DAW.
2. You can use it with your current interface just like a hardware MPC. Just plug it in and go! All the
'sound originating from the same computer/hard drive' stuff is irrelevant. The only time the sound files are being accessed is the one time the Ren is triggering them. The rest is just sound being passed through audio inputs and outputs.
So to try to help you understand, I'll explain how I'll have mine:
I'll have the Ren coming into the Aux input on my 003. This Aux input passes audio through to my speakers as long as the interface is powered on and the Aux button is pressed. It doesn't matter if the sound is coming from my MPC 2500/2000XL/turntable etc, or from a YouTube video playing on the same computer via my on-board sound card.
So with the Aux button on and the Ren application open, and sound I trigger from the hard drive will go out the Ren main outs, into my 003 Aux input, and right out the 003's main outs to my monitors.
Now if I want to actually track the Rens outputs, I simply open Pro Tools, make a new audio track and set my audio track input to channels 7/8. The 003 has a feature where in addition to routing the Aux input signal directly out to the monitors, I can route it to channels 7/8 of the 003, then out the master of Pro Tools. Simple.
Your interface doesn't need to have an aux input, but it's just how I route my external gear into Pro Tools. The actual 8 analog inputs of my 003 is being taken up by the 8-outs of my 2500. So everything else goes to a mixer and then out of that mixer into my 003's aux. So if your interface doesn't have an aux, you just use whatever inputs you use for your current MPC.
Even though the Ren is triggering sounds from a location on your hard drive, when you track those sounds into Pro Tools, Pro Tools is recording them to a totally different location on the hard drive. Doesn't matter whether the sounds are from the same or secondary hard drive. It's the same as if you were to track a Pro Tools virtual instrument, like Xpand, to an audio track within Pro Tools. Sure Pro Tools is triggering those Xpand samples from the same system, but it has no effect on tracking that Xpand sound to an audio track, which basically get's stored as an audio file on the same system.
Ideally, you should have at least 3 hard drives. One for your OS, one for your samples, and one for your DAW recordings. So your Ren app will operate from your OS drive, trigger samples from your samples drive, sound goes out the Ren outs, into your interface/DAW, and records to your audio drive. I personally only use two drives. I keep all my samples on the OS drive and record everything else to my audio drive. And this has worked fine for me.
Now being that I still have my system sound card still activated, I can run any system sounds into my interface, like internet, windows media player, itunes, etc. The Ren will be basically the same thing. Just another sound card.
