Only 2 effects possible?

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Only 2 effects possible?

By sytrusze Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:55 am
Whatsup guys,

How many effects can you add to a pad? Right now i can only put 2 effects in the FX1 & FX2 slots and thats it (MODE -> EFFECTS). I have to use those 2 effects for ALL MY SOUNDS.

Am i doing it the wrong way or is this just a MPC limitation? Im using JJOS1 with my 1000
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Re: Only 2 effects possible?

By sytrusze Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:06 am
Oh before i forget...

Let's say i have a Reverb on FX1 and an EQ on FX2, i can only assign 1 FX slot to a pad?
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Re: Only 2 effects possible?

By Lampdog Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:32 am
Check your manual to see what all you can accomplish.
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Re: Only 2 effects possible?

By sytrusze Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:34 pm
Okay i have done that. I've learned that you can route one FX to another so that can you can add 2 FX to one pad, but i still sucks though that you have to use 2FX for all of your sounds. It it was 2FX per single pad, that would be do-able!

Together with the hard pads, these are the only 2 downsides i've found with the 1000 so far.
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Re: Only 2 effects possible?

By m:t:c Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:43 pm
resample or route your sounds thru a fx-unit or a computer or another more-fx-capable sampler... get creative! :wink:
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Re: Only 2 effects possible?

By sytrusze Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:51 pm
Could you explain this more specific please, or maybe hand me a tutorial or website where i can read more about this. Would be appreciated!

Re: Only 2 effects possible?

By MelloKid Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:57 pm
sytrusze wrote:Could you explain this more specific please, or maybe hand me a tutorial or website where i can read more about this. Would be appreciated!


What he ment was, add fx to the pad(s) resample them so then you have a sample with added fx so you add more.
or
feed your outs into another unit that has fx in and then sample the inputs back into your mp

Re: Only 2 effects possible?

ByTagOne Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:59 pm
sytrusze wrote:Could you explain this more specific please, or maybe hand me a tutorial or website where i can read more about this. Would be appreciated!


Try the search on here:

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Or google:

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&safe=off ... 66&bih=667
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Re: Only 2 effects possible?

By Lampdog Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:55 pm
sytrusze wrote:Could you explain this more specific please, or maybe hand me a tutorial or website where i can read more about this. Would be appreciated!

You can also, put effects on a sample, and "RESAMPLE" your main outs and put that sample onto a pad and then you'll have permanent effects on that sample, it can free up your effects, think about it.
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Re: Only 2 effects possible?

By sytrusze Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:51 pm
Lampdog wrote:
sytrusze wrote:Could you explain this more specific please, or maybe hand me a tutorial or website where i can read more about this. Would be appreciated!

You can also, put effects on a sample, and "RESAMPLE" your main outs and put that sample onto a pad and then you'll have permanent effects on that sample, it can free up your effects, think about it.


True thats an option, but when i record my MAIN OUT the recorded sample sounds so DULL, i don't know what it is.
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Re: Only 2 effects possible?

By Lampdog Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:19 pm
Gotta make sure before you sample main out, all the effects and everything you want are in there because is a very destructive practice going this route. but, if your sure it's cool go ahead and do it.

Remember that when you play that effected sample back it isn't running with the same effects you resampled with (noob mistake that I've made with my ASR10 many times in the past).
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Re: Only 2 effects possible?

By sciguy Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:44 pm
Also if you're recording the main out, you gotta have the master level at 0db, it's at -12db default.
At -12db, main out recordings will come out a lot quieter than they should.

But the only caveat is that at 0db, you have to be more careful to not exceed the mpc's headroom, i.e. can't have every pad at 100% volume without clipping.


And a side note, separate effects for each pad would end up needing tons of processing power, so it's not unexpected that the mpc can only do 2 effects. Even the 5000 can only do a total of 8 simultaneous effects. It's a bit much to ask for separate effects for each individual pad... :)
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Re: Only 2 effects possible?

By sytrusze Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:12 pm
Wonderfull tips guys! appreciate it :)

Lampdog wrote:Remember that when you play that effected sample back it isn't running with the same effects you resampled with (noob mistake that I've made with my ASR10 many times in the past).


lol yeah that was exactly my problem, also the reason why the samples sounded dull.

sciguy wrote:Also if you're recording the main out, you gotta have the master level at 0db, it's at -12db default.
At -12db, main out recordings will come out a lot quieter than they should.


Good tip! I always have my master level at -12db, why not always keep it on 0db? This way you can adjust everything not to exceed the headroom while you are making a song + when you are recording the main out you don't have to adjust anything...or is there a specific reason why we should better leave the master level at -12db?
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Re: Only 2 effects possible?

By Lampdog Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:00 pm
I'd leave everything at least -4bd on a DAW.

On the MPC you have that -12db option? Do that then.

Later on inside your daw you can raise up the level when mastering or making your final edits/processes. Don't max or clip out your audio early in the process because once you record to daw/multitrack that is permanent audio. You'd have to re-record again at a lower volume, get it right the first time and save headroom like sciguy stated.
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