Do you plan on purchasing one of the new Akai MPC models?

Bug reports & end-user support for Akai's MPC Software 'controllers' including the new MPC Studio 2, the MPC Touch, MPC Renaissance & original MPC Studio and MPC StudioB lack.
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Re: Do you plan on purchasing one of the new Akai MPC models

By Coz Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:34 am
Bringing Apogee into the discussion shows you haven't really got a clue what you're talking about! :lol:

Keep holding onto that pipe dream of the converters being comparable if you must.
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Re: Do you plan on purchasing one of the new Akai MPC models

By JAH Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:19 am
Coz wrote:Bringing Apogee into the discussion shows you haven't really got a clue what you're talking about! :lol:

Keep holding onto that pipe dream of the converters being comparable if you must.


The Apogee comments went over your head but I will try to explain it in simpler terms for you. Apogee converters are highly regarded. Because they are highly regarded, I used them as an example to show that quality converters are not expensive.

Based upon several comments you have made in these forums, you say or imply that Akai will cut corners based upon real and fictional issues that forum members have encountered using past MPCs (which are the best sampling drum machines ever created by the way). Going back to Apogee, my point is to counter your speculation to point out that quality converters are reasonably priced. So it isn't necessary for Akai to cut corners and use low quality converters when high quality converters are not expensive to add to their products. I fullly believe (and know) they are doing what they can to produce a top quality product. I suspect the converters on the MPC Ren will be "better" than any previous MPC. Whether that means anything to you doesn't really matter to the numerous people that use and will continue to use MPCs.

I know you have some weird pipe-dream that you would like to see Akai fail...but its just not going to happen with this product.

When the MPC Ren is released, I will be right here talking about it while you still window shop.
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Re: Do you plan on purchasing one of the new Akai MPC models

By Coz Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:14 pm
JAH wrote:Apogee converters are highly regarded. Because they are highly regarded, I used them as an example to show that quality converters are not expensive.



You're comparing 'off the shelf' components to world class ones. It makes zero sense. Apogee can make their products for a good price and to a top quality level because all the R&D has been done in-house, and they can manufacture their products at a fraction of the cost compared to a company just starting out in this field. Not to mention their technology will be patented.


JAH wrote:When the MPC Ren is released, I will be right here talking about it while you still make beats.



:wink:
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Re: Do you plan on purchasing one of the new Akai MPC models

By JAH Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:56 pm
Coz wrote:
JAH wrote:Apogee converters are highly regarded. Because they are highly regarded, I used them as an example to show that quality converters are not expensive.



You're comparing 'off the shelf' components to world class ones. It makes zero sense. Apogee can make their products for a good price and to a top quality level because all the R&D has been done in-house, and they can manufacture their products at a fraction of the cost compared to a company just starting out in this field. Not to mention their technology will be patented.


JAH wrote:When the MPC Ren is released, I will be right here talking about it while you still make beats.


Akai has been around for 25 plus years making MPCs. So I have no idea why you are talking about a company that is just starting out. You have no idea what Akai is doing. They could be using the same converters found in the MPC 4K which is the only other 24 bit MPC. They could use a 3rd party developer that has already done the R&D to manufacture the AD/DA converters of the Ren at a low cost. There are many possibilities. But the one you pick is that Akai will put a terrible sounding, cheaply built converters.


:wink:
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Re: Do you plan on purchasing one of the new Akai MPC models

By m:t:c Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:17 pm
At the moment I'm thinking "no". MPC 1k + JJOS w/ Logic and my outboard gear got me more than covered! I'm even fancying 500 over any of these, but lets see once they finally emerge.

I can see these appeal to someone who's only just starting out tho.
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Re: Do you plan on purchasing one of the new Akai MPC models

By JAH Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:25 pm
Coz wrote:^^ Fail. :wink:


You see the term "24 bit" and think that warrants a fair comparison to class leading companies. It just shows you're beyond clueless! :lol:

Fair comparison? Who is the clueless individual(s) talking about how the Ren will stack up to the interfaces that "we" already have? Lol

The MPC Ren is a sampling workstation not an AD/DA converter that you are going to connect all your hardware to. Compare it's converters to those found on legacy MPCs or the sampling workstations produced by Korg, Yamaha, or Roland.
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Re: Do you plan on purchasing one of the new Akai MPC models

By Coz Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:00 pm
JAH wrote:The MPC Ren is a sampling workstation not an AD/DA converter that you are going to connect all your hardware to. Compare it's converters to those found on legacy MPCs or the sampling workstations produced by Korg, Yamaha, or Roland.




Trying to backpedal now are we? :wink:

Those that you mention would make a fairer comparison.
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Re: Do you plan on purchasing one of the new Akai MPC models

By JAH Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:42 pm
Coz wrote:
JAH wrote:The MPC Ren is a sampling workstation not an AD/DA converter that you are going to connect all your hardware to. Compare it's converters to those found on legacy MPCs or the sampling workstations produced by Korg, Yamaha, or Roland.




Trying to backpedal now are we? :wink:

Those that you mention would make a fairer comparison.


Sorry man...just using your own words against you. You are among the clueless guys comparing the Ren to standalone AD/DA converters and implying how poorly you think Akai will design the Ren. Outside of these nerdy intermet forums, no one is complaining about the sound of MPCs. The same will be true when the Ren is released.
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Re: Do you plan on purchasing one of the new Akai MPC models

By Coz Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:08 pm
JAH wrote:Sorry man...just using your own words against you.



Not really. :?

You're just making up little stories as you go along... not for the first time either. You seem to believe the Akai converters will be on a par with Apogee. Ok mate.
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Re: Do you plan on purchasing one of the new Akai MPC models

By DJ Hellfire Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:43 pm
Coz wrote:
JAH wrote:Sorry man...just using your own words against you.



Not really. :?

You're just making up little stories as you go along... not for the first time either. You seem to believe the Akai converters will be on a par with Apogee. Ok mate.



Actually, I've haven't followed this whole thread, but isn't the Ren using Apogee converters? I think I remember Dan saying that. Probably similar to whats in the duet.
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Re: Do you plan on purchasing one of the new Akai MPC models

By DJ Hellfire Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:52 pm
NVM! He was responding to someone else about Apogees!


xparis001 wrote:
kdotson wrote:I'm wondering since the MPC-REN support s/pdif, will I be able to use my Apogee Mini-ME and Mini-DAC for IN/OUTs.

thanks


Yes, but the s/pdif outs are mirrors of the main, like all the other MPCs, so you wouldnt be gaining additional channels, jjust the sound of the appogees, which would be pretty cool. you could pick the flavor you liked per track. MPC or apogee.
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Re: Do you plan on purchasing one of the new Akai MPC models

By Coz Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:05 pm
DJ Hellfire wrote:NVM! He was responding to someone else about Apogees!



I thought that might be the case!


Just to clarify seeing as the story teller has gone to bed....

It's cool the Ren has an interface for those that need it, and people who don't could still put it to good use.

There's been numerous mentions of the 3000 circuitry being on the output only, and only one mention that I have read of it being on the input and output. If it was on both it could add another nice sonic to play around with, but I would expect the general 'sound' of the inputs and AD/DA to be fairly transparent.
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