major newbie drum sequencing mistakes

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Re: major newbie drum sequencing mistakes

By mastasteez Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:50 pm
-niN wrote:
TagOne wrote:
elevated wrote:Repeating the same barely acceptable 1 bar drum loop throughout the whole song. Son u ARE NOT Dr. Dre. At least have some change-ups to break the monotony of your lame drum programming.


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Why the F*ck Not??? R you saying you don't mind repetitiv drumloops as long as they're made by DrDre ..?.. But everyone else better keep switchin' things up ?!?
If it works .. it works.. Can be hypnotic.. maybe it only works for a minute or two. ( I love short mixtape-style-beats..)
There's no rules to personall taste. And that's all most of us go by when making our music.



J DILLA - PAUSE!!!!!!!
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Re: major newbie drum sequencing mistakes

By b.read Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:55 pm
Hey ding dong! You already said that... :lol:

Re: major newbie drum sequencing mistakes

By mastasteez Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:02 pm
b.read wrote:Hey ding dong! You already said that... :lol:


Yeah but the first time i didn't use ''!!!!!!!!''

Besides it's much more poignant now dude mentioned the word hypnotic


My biggest newbie error is worrying about what other people think. The track in my sig is my second beat and has continual hats (well shakers) but it's not because i was being lazy or un-creative. I just didn't want them not to be audible at any point.
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Re: major newbie drum sequencing mistakes

By b.read Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:03 pm
mastasteez wrote:Yeah but the first time i didn't use ''!!!!!!!!''

Besides it's much more poignant now dude mentioned the word hypnotic





Ahhhhh I gotcha...just makin' sure you were aware. :lol:
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Re: major newbie drum sequencing mistakes

By Ibunshi Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:22 pm
mp3 wrote:Not speaking on others, I'll leave that for the judges around here :lol: , but my personal biggest problem as a beginner was making patterns too busy. That and lack of variation.


I used to do that, but the problem never was the beats being too busy, the human ear can pick up a lot of details.. The problem was not knowing how to tweak drums so that they fit in that kind of pattern.. Usually sloppy programming can make a beat sound more busy than a pattern that actually is more busy (its kinda all over the place dynamically and rhythmicall, less subtleties and so that steals attention and that leads to it appearing to be busy).. But the more you customise your hits to fit their place in a pattern, then usually you'll have more space.. And by doing this you can have a very complex pattern sound less busy and also more natural and fluid than a pattern where less attention may have been put into shaping the drumhits for that pattern
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Re: major newbie drum sequencing mistakes

By Cases Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:07 am
Why the F*ck Not??? R you saying you don't mind repetitiv drumloops as long as they're made by DrDre ..?.. But everyone else better keep switchin' things up ?!?
If it works .. it works.. Can be hypnotic.. maybe it only works for a minute or two. ( I love short mixtape-style-beats..)
There's no rules to personall taste. And that's all most of us go by when making our music.


+2.

Check out this drum sequence, not 1 bar the same. (lol, ykwim)

But the kicks are.

Its sloppy recording, MPC couldnt handle it.
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Re: major newbie drum sequencing mistakes

By elevated Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:30 pm
-niN wrote:
TagOne wrote:
elevated wrote:Repeating the same barely acceptable 1 bar drum loop throughout the whole song. Son u ARE NOT Dr. Dre. At least have some change-ups to break the monotony of your lame drum programming.


+1


-1

Why the F*ck Not??? R you saying you don't mind repetitiv drumloops as long as they're made by DrDre ..?.. But everyone else better keep switchin' things up ?!?
If it works .. it works.. Can be hypnotic.. maybe it only works for a minute or two. ( I love short mixtape-style-beats..)
There's no rules to personall taste. And that's all most of us go by when making our music.


Lol u goofballs :lol:

I'm not saying ONLY Dre can make a repeat-worthy one bar loop,,,,

I'm just saying that few newbies can.
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Re: major newbie drum sequencing mistakes

By Lampdog Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:07 am
elevated wrote:Lol u goofballs :lol:

I'm not saying ONLY Dre can make a repeat-worthy one bar loop,,,,

I'm just saying that few newbies can.

That's how I read it too.
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Re: major newbie drum sequencing mistakes

By elevated Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:00 pm
Sm0keydaBear wrote:I'm gonna have to speak on this. The only way I ever gotten a one-bar loop of drums, was never. Always has to be 2 bars for myself, and I usually go 8 bars for 1 drum loop that I make myself. Any one-bar drum loop that sounds nice is practically insane to me.


Do u remember when Chronic 2001 came out? I refer u to this classic,,, which actually features a HALF-BAR drum loop, unchanged throughout the whole song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T0phY59BrE

Re: major newbie drum sequencing mistakes

By jjbing3 Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:04 pm
Sm0keydaBear wrote:I can't believe I forgot about this song. That is insane that it's a freakin half-bar drum loops tho. Didn't even realize it until you told me.


Its not a 1/2 bar loop. Its a one bar loop. If you listen closely you'll see that the first snare is a few cents lower than the second snare. :D
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Re: major newbie drum sequencing mistakes

By scoobylol Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:14 pm
Nothing wrong with short loops. Some of my favourite techno records have literally only got a kick and hi-hat. To nail that simplicity and keep a track rolling takes a lot of skill IMO. But that's not really relevant to noobs.

Biggest drum sequencing error I usually come across is people mistaking swing for bad timing.
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Re: major newbie drum sequencing mistakes

By Sm0keydaBear Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:49 pm
scoobylol wrote:Nothing wrong with short loops. Some of my favourite techno records have literally only got a kick and hi-hat. To nail that simplicity and keep a track rolling takes a lot of skill IMO. But that's not really relevant to noobs.

Biggest drum sequencing error I usually come across is people mistaking swing for bad timing.



Lol some of my old tracks just had bad timing, but then again it is questionable to swing. I think the error that most newbies will make is thinking that leaving quantize on will fix their mistakes in the verse, but the fact is when you have just the kick and the snare, it's often MUCH better to non-quantize the two. Hi-hats to me can be quantized, but that to me sounds too much like a machine doing work, and not enough like a real beat. You don't need your drums to sound like a real drummer is playing, but people need to understand that drummers aren't restricted to rock & roll, they can be hip-hop and whatever else they want to be.
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