Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By *Pilchard* Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:11 am
Hi MPC4K,
Props on the instrumentation :D 8)
I'm always on the look out for Persian and Arabic music both folk music and fusions.
Got any reccommendations that I might not have heard?
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By thx Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:18 am
MPC4K:
the santur is very difficult to learn, isn't it?
props
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By MPC4k Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:46 am
*Pilchard* wrote:Hi MPC4K,
Props on the instrumentation :D 8)
I'm always on the look out for Persian and Arabic music both folk music and fusions.
Got any reccommendations that I might not have heard?

Greetings, thanks and anytime!

To listen to or sample?

Well I've recently been listening to these a lot:

Persian Rap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8DaAJyYFSI

Persian Folk from Shiraz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyu2axz7x3E

Persian Traditional: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84-SjoFW ... plpp_video

Persian pop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4azTlgG5 ... plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agWBI0CI ... plpp_video

Azeri Folk instrumental: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJQj3ulU ... UGEXxEBbqp

Azeri pop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc7VcI-a ... plpp_video

War song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTSqZy96 ... UGEXxEBbqp

Kurdish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znLXS0w2 ... UGEXxEBbqp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq5GV8jW ... UGEXxEBbqp

Santur with Cajon (?): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHjcfRwa ... plpp_video

Santur solo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7qqrWz9 ... plpp_video

New instrument called Shurangiz (Mix between Setar & Tanbur): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7YutgId ... plpp_video

Also not to be missed, none-Iranian Uzbeki (Central Asian) improvisation on Dotar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9esY7cf ... plpp_video

Quite a lot to get your teeth into ;)
Also check out http://www.persianhub.com for a much wider range of albums, from pop to traditional to folk.

thx wrote:MPC4K:
the santur is very difficult to learn, isn't it?
props

I wouldn't say difficult, just need time/practice to learn properly. Quite easy to get into in fact.
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By *Pilchard* Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:00 am
Thanks MP. It's mainly to listen to but some sampling certainly takes place.
I'll tuck into those, thanks for going to the trouble.


btw. I play most of the usual instruments people here play to some degree but the main unusual one is the Bodhran, an Irish frame drum. I have played it for over 30 years on and off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exLbTGCuEA0



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By andromeda Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:46 pm
played trap drums for about 15 yrs.
studying Piano for about 9yrs now... work in progress.
studied music theory as well. Just love all kinds of music and can't get enough of it!
I actually practice keboards on the D train! lol! hollah if see me! :D
By brucker Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:14 am
i play drums.

and the japanese koto which is like a 13 string zither/harp type thing, and i've been thinking of taking up the keyboard as i'v been getting more and more into synths lately.
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By MPC4k Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:45 pm
*Pilchard* wrote:Thanks MP. It's mainly to listen to but some sampling certainly takes place.
I'll tuck into those, thanks for going to the trouble.


btw. I play most of the usual instruments people here play to some degree but the main unusual one is the Bodhran, an Irish frame drum. I have played it for over 30 years on and off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exLbTGCuEA0



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No probs, you're welcome.
Always wanted a Bodhran.


brucker wrote:i play drums.

and the japanese koto which is like a 13 string zither/harp type thing, and i've been thinking of taking up the keyboard as i'v been getting more and more into synths lately.

Koto is pretty cool sounding too, something within the lines of MidEastern Ghanoon.

I feel like I wanna own every single MidEastern, Central Asian, Chinese & Japanese instrument. Then western ones.

Would be a headache to maintain/store though. Pulled out the Tanbur the other day and found that 4-5 of its frets had automatically decided to snap :shock:
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By AntonPD Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:43 am
haha :lol:

thats why i like brass instruments... you could boil them and theyd still work fine 8)

besides my own yamaha student model (only 15 years old), i play on an old (borrowed) conn victor model, i liken it to an old cadillac (its HEAVY, and big, overengineered) EXCEPT that this one wont rust :lol:

kinda weird actually, i think it must be at least 30-35 years old, but the lacquer is still pretty fresh
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By MPC4k Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:52 am
AntonPD wrote:haha :lol:

thats why i like brass instruments... you could boil them and theyd still work fine 8)

besides my own yamaha student model (only 15 years old), i play on an old (borrowed) conn victor model, i liken it to an old cadillac (its HEAVY, and big, overengineered) EXCEPT that this one wont rust :lol:

kinda weird actually, i think it must be at least 30-35 years old, but the lacquer is still pretty fresh

Ha!

Sweet! Used them in your music anywhere?
By brucker Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:25 am
MPC4k wrote:Would be a headache to maintain/store though.


it's a major pain especially somewhere the temperature and humidity varies so greatly through out the year.

also both the shamisen and koto require setting up and breaking down time, but atleast that allows us not to worry too much when they're stored,... we're meant to remove the bridges when not in use,... not that i always do :? cos i'm a lazy ass... but they still warp over time.

there's a 17 string bass koto that sounds soooo bad ass, but its more cumbersome than a double bass and weighs a tonne,... still want one tho :P
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By Ill-Green Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:59 am
brucker wrote:
MPC4k wrote:Would be a headache to maintain/store though.


it's a major pain especially somewhere the temperature and humidity varies so greatly through out the year.

also both the shamisen and koto require setting up and breaking down time, but atleast that allows us not to worry too much when they're stored,... we're meant to remove the bridges when not in use,... not that i always do :? cos i'm a lazy ass... but they still warp over time.

there's a 17 string bass koto that sounds soooo bad ass, but its more cumbersome than a double bass and weighs a tonne,... still want one tho :P

I love that samurai sound!!
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By MPC4k Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:50 am
brucker wrote:
MPC4k wrote:Would be a headache to maintain/store though.


it's a major pain especially somewhere the temperature and humidity varies so greatly through out the year.

also both the shamisen and koto require setting up and breaking down time, but atleast that allows us not to worry too much when they're stored,... we're meant to remove the bridges when not in use,... not that i always do :? cos i'm a lazy ass... but they still warp over time.

there's a 17 string bass koto that sounds soooo bad ass, but its more cumbersome than a double bass and weighs a tonne,... still want one tho :P

Britain is the worst place for them.
Removing all bridges when not in use sounds like a pain.

Sweet. There's also a concert Santur that sounds as big as a piano, but with Santur texture. Thinking on how I can smuggle 1 to England. Though it's probably wiser to just rent a decent one in Tehran and sample the heck out of it.


AntonPD wrote:
MPC4k wrote:
AntonPD wrote:haha :lol:

thats why i like brass instruments... you could boil them and theyd still work fine 8)

besides my own yamaha student model (only 15 years old), i play on an old (borrowed) conn victor model, i liken it to an old cadillac (its HEAVY, and big, overengineered) EXCEPT that this one wont rust :lol:

kinda weird actually, i think it must be at least 30-35 years old, but the lacquer is still pretty fresh

Ha!

Sweet! Used them in your music anywhere?


nah not in my own music (i dont have a mic 8) )

i like these recordings of our local orchestra, playing in valencia (i was playing FOURTH trumpet :mrgreen: ):
http://fonoteca.cibm-valencia.com/resultados-cibm.aspx?compositor=&banda=zele&director=&obra=&anyo=-1
(only the second mp3 (a pasodoble composed especially for that contest by our current director) is less than 10 minutes :lol: )

Listening to it over a beer 8) thanks!