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By dickydiggler Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:55 am
I'm thinking about trading my 1k for a 2000XL.

Would it be a bad move? I'm not concerned about USB-connectivity or CF-cards.
I only sample from vinyl and I want larger pads plus better sound.

Anyone else have experience from moving from JJOS to a older MPC?
By doctah wizard Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:12 am
Arkyve or some other dude posted soundclips comparing the sound of the MPC 3000 to the sound of the MPC 4000 and nobody could notice a real difference (a lot of people even said the kick sounded deeper on the 4000 IIRC). So I think the difference between the 2k and 1k should be even less noticeable.
The dealbreaker for me (also considered a 2k XL) was that the MPC 2000 XL screens seem to have a lot of problems (stripes showing on the screen and shit) and new screens are expensive. BTW, does it have the 8 outs? Because that costs you an extra 200 bucks or something too.
Another issue is the ZIP drives. I'm assuming you are going to use those for the 2k XL? I've heard those things aren't really reliable (I remember a thread with some dude complaining about how he lost all of his sounds because he had them stored on a ZIP drive.)
Also, you have JJOS, I don't know much about it, I think you could learn to deal with the 2K XL's limitations... but the JJOS has the ADSR function and that is really neat, I wouldn't want to go back once I had that, especially when you sample.
As for the pads... I don't think it's that bad, try the SP 404 SX pads, even smaller and just terrible for playing :lol:
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By MPC-Tutor Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:10 am
I love my XL, but generally speaking I would suggest you look at 2500 if you want the full size pads or just stick with the 1000. No noticeable sound difference to the XL, so beyond that, it's all about what's important to you. But the JJ OS thing is a deal breaker TBH - the XL is never going to have those features.
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By Menco Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:47 pm
MPC-Tutor wrote:I love my XL, but generally speaking I would suggest you look at 2500 if you want the full size pads or just stick with the 1000. No noticeable sound difference to the XL, so beyond that, it's all about what's important to you. But the JJ OS thing is a deal breaker TBH - the XL is never going to have those features.


+1

Before I purchased the 2500 I asked dj Hellfire (forum member) if he had noticed a difference in sound and pads between the 2kxl and the 2500, since he owns them both. He said there is no difference between those two machines when it comes down to sound and pads.
Have a 2500 for a couple of years now, never regreted it. Love the JJOS and all. And the screen is still fresh.
By dickydiggler Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:41 am
Thanks for input.

The one I'm looking at has the FX expansion and is in mint condition.

I didn't even think about ADSR. That's a crucial feature for me. Looks like I'm gonna stick with the 1k then.

I already have a st224 for dirty sampling, and I think I'm gonna get another sampler or some rack for more FX.

Thanks!
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By mr_debauch Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:26 pm
dickydiggler wrote:Thanks for input.

The one I'm looking at has the FX expansion and is in mint condition.

I didn't even think about ADSR. That's a crucial feature for me. Looks like I'm gonna stick with the 1k then.

I already have a st224 for dirty sampling, and I think I'm gonna get another sampler or some rack for more FX.

Thanks!


yeah just wait for a good price on an s3000 or s3000xl maybe? or maybe you will see an xl or regular mpc 2000 for cheap some day and you could grab that without needing to sell your current workhorses.
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By kardus Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:04 pm
Just get a 2500. JJOS is still updated and you get the latest and greatest features, it's the most modernised standalone. Don't listen to people telling you about sound quality differences.
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By dtaa pla muk Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:28 am
Don't listening to people telling you about sound quality differences.


have you noticed that those folks have gotten quieter and quieter since 2004?
either they've learned better or old age has taken its toll...RIP MPC sound wars
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By Lampdog Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:37 am
dickydiggler wrote:moving from JJOS to a older MPC?

Big mistake from what I've read every where here for years now.
By JVC Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:18 am
Lampdog wrote:
dickydiggler wrote:moving from JJOS to a older MPC?

Big mistake from what I've read every where here for years now.

It may not be a bad move for OP.
Like, I know I would not like MPC-1000, because of the size, small jog dial, and no numerical keys (those are important to me, I'm still bitter about 2000XL not having dedicated function keys like 60/3000/4000!)
But I recommend to try out 2000XL before actually trading your MPC-1000.
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By Lampdog Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:21 am
I mean if bigger pads are wanted, I'd go 2500. 2kxl is cool but I'd still want some of the more advanced features in jjos. So 2500 would be what I'd go with if it were me.
By dtaa pla muk Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:48 pm
and no numerical keys (those are important to me, I'm still bitter about 2000XL not having dedicated function keys like 60/3000/4000!)


just so you know, the mpc1000 can have whatever dedicated buttons you want. just throw a keyboard or midi controller next to it, midi it in, and tell jjos to interpret X midi note as X numeric key or function button. no other MPC os does this and it is the single most under utilized function in jjos
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By MPCWeapon1 Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:28 pm
dickydiggler wrote:I'm thinking about trading my 1k for a 2000XL.

Would it be a bad move? I'm not concerned about USB-connectivity or CF-cards.
I only sample from vinyl and I want larger pads plus better sound.

Anyone else have experience from moving from JJOS to a older MPC?


I had a 1k and 2kxl at the same time..could not tell the difference in harmonics.

1k to me is better. And with the lack of global edits I couldn't really mess with the 2kxl any more.
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By kardus Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:13 pm
A lot of people want something in the pre-2500 2k series because they think it has a characteristic sound quality (false), more 'retro' / what the big name guys are using/have used in the past. The fact of the matter is that it is more limiting at the end of the day, and if you're serious about production you obviously want the most features or best bang for your money.

The 2500 is presumably the 'last' of the hardware samplers (there's the 5000, but I'm sure most people would agree when they say they would rather have a 2500+JJOSXL than a 5000), so there's no real reason not to invest in one now if you can, the value of the machine is going to stay what it is for a long time and presumably even go up if no more hardware machines are made.

Simply put, the 2500 is the closest feel to the older 2k machines, without sacrificing the modern features of the 1000. Plus more.