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By dtaa pla muk Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:57 pm
do not take this the wrong way, but it sounds like there's too much talk and not enough practice/experience going on here.

get yourself a 1000 or 2500 with jjos2xl. integrate it properly into your DAW and you have something that beats all other current options on the market. i have read so many anecdotes across this forum that praise jj's workflow over all others. go as deep or as shallow as it takes to make the music you want to make. treat your DAW as an extension of your MPC.

so far, the only thing that really and truly differentiates these new "integrated" controllers over a well integrated jj setup is the "hype" feature. i am open to being proven wrong.
By dmajor100 Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:23 pm
Nym wrote:do not take this the wrong way, but it sounds like there's too much talk and not enough practice/experience going on here.

get yourself a 1000 or 2500 with jjos2xl. integrate it properly into your DAW and you have something that beats all other current options on the market. i have read so many anecdotes across this forum that praise jj's workflow over all others. go as deep or as shallow as it takes to make the music you want to make. treat your DAW as an extension of your MPC.

so far, the only thing that really and truly differentiates these new "integrated" controllers over a well integrated jj setup is the "hype" feature. i am open to being proven wrong.


Well I actually still gotta have my daw.open anys to moniter my motif,fantom and r3, but how exactly do people set there system up that way? How to have your mpc as master and slave 3 synths and your daw for vsts., ThIs would be no different than really working on maschine anys but it would get me used to the mpc and get me ready for the ren when it drops.
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By m:t:c Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:31 pm
dmajor100 wrote:So do yall believe when the rennasance drops that the jjos will still stomp the rens software as far as features and stability?


Don't know and tbh atm don't really care. Only time will tell how well these new MPControllers will fare.
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By JAH Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:41 pm
Nym wrote:so far, the only thing that really and truly differentiates these new "integrated" controllers over a well integrated jj setup is the "hype" feature. i am open to being proven wrong.

But to be fair and balanced...the same hype can be said about the JJ OS.

dmajor100 wrote:So do yall believe when the rennasance drops that the jjos will still stomp the rens software as far as features and stability?

No.
By dtaa pla muk Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:47 pm
jj hype = user experience, infinitely more valuable than reading specifications, forums, polls, and feature lists. as mentioned before, "grid edit" is a feature, but implementations vary extraordinarily. compare the 2500 stock akai os grid edit to the grid edit in jjos2xl.

i think m.t.c. said it best just a minute ago, only time will tell.
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By JAH Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:07 pm
I definitely agree user experience is valuable...which is why I look forward to seeing others try it first hand.

But still...every product will have their fanatics...and being as such makes people look at their favorite kit through rose-tinted glasses.
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By JAH Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:22 am
Nym wrote:.....as mentioned before, "grid edit" is a feature, but implementations vary extraordinarily. compare the 2500 stock akai os grid edit to the grid edit in jjos2xl.

i think m.t.c. said it best just a minute ago, only time will tell.

dmajor100 wrote:Well spoken gents.



On the subject of grid mode....there is always room for improvement such as:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/numarkindu ... 003770043/

It what ways can this grid edit be improved?
By acronym Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:57 pm
There was a thread about it in the NI forums. Basically they said they did the same sort of sale when the 1.1, 1.5, 1.6 updates dropped. This was done to clear out inventory of the old boxes.
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By konc3pt Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:21 pm
JAH wrote:But still...every product will have their fanatics...and being as such makes people look at their favorite kit through rose-tinted glasses.


biased user/owner looks thru rose-tinted glasses, level headed user can observe and acknowldge cons and pros...fanatic falls into biased user category as they mostly see pros and no cons
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By inflict3 Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:31 pm
Ill-Green wrote:Well get yourself a NI Mikro. You obviously will be held back with an MPC. Why make life hard on yourself.