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By crossings Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:51 am
on the contrary, we've been very helpful in regards to answering your questions... way more than we probably should have. what exactly do you want from us that we aren't providing here? we can't give you knowledge. only facts. don't blame us for you not knowing what you want or need. that's on you.
By pcity_substance Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:04 am
I never denied the fact that you did help because you have but there are ways of doing that without making me seem dumb. As far as I'm concerned you can say nothing further because there are thousands of people who probably would help without being an ****. I didn't pay for ask for your services I asked a community of people. If it is bothering you that much then you never have to respond to me or any of my posts ever again! Besides "It'll cost you nothing, pay me no mind" being as though I'm thankful and I'm not a Dick thank you for your help.
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By crossings Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:12 am
how did i supposedly make you feel dumb here? by pointing out that you need to do some research of your own in order to find out what you want? are you kidding me!@? i've seriously been trying to help you here...

want me to make you a sandwich while you're at it?
By pcity_substance Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:08 am
I said thank you already so let's stop that cuz its getting childish.... So i just want to clear things up so that I do know... If I.hadve just replaced that keyboard and used MIDI inputs and ouputs on a new keyboard, I could make a drum pattern with the MPC and use the keyboard to play a melody and create a sequence with the two together, create a song and bump it over to a computer and it will come out how I played it and recorded on the MPC? From what i was told that not possible because its MIDI data and not audio... Does this help u understand at all? Thank you in advance
By LZ Roberts Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:48 am
I think some noobs get too much of a hard time on this forum from time to time.

The whole Midi/USB Midi & Audio concept can be really hard for unacquainted ppl to grasp. I've tried explaining it to ppl infront of me & their eye's just glaze over with confusion even when physically shown. So sometimes even an avid manual reader is left confused.

It gets even more confusing with an MPC

pcity_substance - you can record the midi from your keyboard if its the normal 5pin din connection. If is is USB midi then a computer & midi interface will be needed to convert the data to conventional Midi for the MPC. Midi is basically data which says 'you pressed C sharp, its this loud, now you've released C sharp' - no audio info whatsoever.

Once the data is recorded to your satisfaction, you can then get the MPC to play the track back to the keyboard(if it has its own sound like a piano or synth) via midi & then record back from that via the audio inputs at the same time. Then you'll have the piano audio track.

Once recorded, you have the piano track as a wav which can be transfered to a computer. And the same track as a Midi sequence which can be transfered too as a midi data file.

With regard to the 1000 2500 & 4000 - the 1000 & 2500 are very similar except for the Inputs & Outputs. The 4000 is a much more weighty beast having a much higher spec'd sampling capability.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep02/a ... pc4000.asp
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan07/a ... pc2500.htm

- We were all noobs once and the RTFM strategy does not always lead to enlightenment. :D Be nice.
By pcity_substance Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:00 am
Thank you LZ Roberts for being human and explaining that to me. thanks a lot for that! That Was.so much easier to understand! The other guy I guess was giving me a hard time. So in a sense u are saying I have to take the sequence into song mode where it then converts it to a wav file am I right on this?
By LZ Roberts Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:20 am
Not really.

You can just record from the audio outputs into the MPC audio inputs in sequence mode as it it running then assign that recording to a pad in Program Mode. I don't know if it'll record from Song Mode, never tried it. You can convert Song to one long Sequence at any point though.

Its just a case of giving it a little try - Record a few notes as Midi to the MPC. Have the notes played back to your piano via midi from your MPC. Set the MPC to Record and start the sequence playing (Press Play) and record from your piano's outputs to the MPC. Then you'll have that recording in your MPC which you can chop & pitch etc if you want.

The MPC cant convert Midi into Wavs - this is the domain of computers, DAWs & plugins. The MPC Midi is just Note On /Note Off it has no idea of the sounds assigned to it.

Just do little bits at a time and see how it all works.

And once you become Au Fait with it all - then spread to love to other noobs on the forum.
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By Lampdog Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:18 pm
LZ Roberts wrote:I think some noobs get too much of a hard time on this forum from time to time.


I can tell you exactly why from my point of view.

It's easy to ask questions but for some unknown reason hard to research on their own?!? Regurgitated info thats already out there a thousand fold. Peeps usually take the easy way out. Not everyone wants to re-spit available info over and over again. Props on your patience though.
By pcity_substance Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:03 pm
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you know honestly, lamp dog and crossing **** BOTH OF YALL JUDGEMENTAL ASSHOLES!!! straight up! yall act like yall run this **** forum and you make rules. i didnt niether one of yall bitches to reply to my thread. if yall dont like then get **** lost plain and simple. i dont need all your dumb ass comments and trying to pretend to it all. everyone cant always comprehend shit if they are not fully educating on something. you can read until your blue in the face but if you dont know exactly what you are reading your simply not going to get it. some people learn shit hands on, some learn from reading does that make anyone less intelligent? no that means everyone learns differently. i said numerous times that i didnt fully understand midi. im not going to keep explaining myself to some dick behind a keyboard. flatout, if you dont like what i or anyone else post, keep it the **** moving! its not mandatory that assholes respond to everything, so go **** yourselves!
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By MeSoHordey Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:27 pm
pcity_substance wrote:


you know honestly, lamp dog and crossing **** BOTH OF YALL JUDGEMENTAL ASSHOLES!!! straight up! yall act like yall run this **** forum and you make rules. i didnt niether one of yall bitches to reply to my thread. if yall dont like then get **** lost plain and simple. i dont need all your dumb ass comments and trying to pretend to it all. everyone cant always comprehend **** if they are not fully educating on something. you can read until your blue in the face but if you dont know exactly what you are reading your simply not going to get it. some people learn **** hands on, some learn from reading does that make anyone less intelligent? no that means everyone learns differently. i said numerous times that i didnt fully understand midi. im not going to keep explaining myself to some dick behind a keyboard. flatout, if you dont like what i or anyone else post, keep it the **** moving! its not mandatory that assholes respond to everything, so go **** yourselves!


You really don't want to go there kid. Just trust me on that.

We want to help, but you have to help yourself. My biggest problem with your thread was that you wanted us to focus on which new machine to get, when it was clear from the start that your previous machine was just fine for your needs - you just didn't know how to use it. So the advice you got, which wasn't what you wanted to hear, was still good advice; learn the basics before you go out and spend a bunch more money. But we're not here to personally spoon feed you those basics. The info is readily available on this forum and on the web.

Good luck to ya. But really, until your attitude changes you won't be getting anything else from me.
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By Lampdog Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:42 pm
pcity_substance wrote:you know honestly, lamp dog and crossing **** BOTH OF YALL JUDGEMENTAL ASSHOLES!!!!

And I never cursed you at all.

It's simple really, you still have to attempt to help yourself. You have a brain.
Would you like for us to make your beats too? I don't think you'd want that, I make pretty horrible beats.

I even sent you the link, did you even check it out? If you did you'd see that many of your questions and I'll even wager some future questions would have been explained right then and there. MIDI and everything is FULLY explained in that link, even with pictures.

Did you also thoroughly check out the links LZ gave you?
By LZ Roberts Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:45 pm
OOPS!

I've been out for a few hours. Didn't know a hornets nest had been stirred up. :(

@pcity_substance - Lampdog & crossings are really cool guys & have been really helpful to me over time. It's just that they've experienced questions like you've been asking for quite a few years and quite often it appears that, instead of doing a bit of internet research first, some just come straight to the forum like its an online manual. And this gets a bit weary after a time, so seasoned users start to sound a bit short.

I'm not quite so long in the tooth, as a forum user & have had experience of ppls difficulty understanding the concepts of midi. Especially now that most are coming from DAWs. So am a little more easy going.

The 'How do I make a Sandwich' thread gives a good and humorous idea of what the forum goes through.
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=153591

I've noticed some members have got off to a rough start like you, but its usually a lot more mellow when you get in the flow. :D
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By davehate Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:31 pm
pcity_substance wrote:Whats goin on out there? Im new to the forum and im undecided on which mpc to get. I sold my 1000 to upgrade to a bigger model. I am undecided between the 2500 & 4000!!! I want to be able to use my yamaha portable grand keyboard with it & use it sounds as well. the mpc 1000 lacked that. to my understanding both the 2500 and 4000 both has those capabilities. seeing as im giving yall an outlook on what im trying do with the mpc, which would u recommend for me?

you done goofed homes!!!! you cant do it with the 1000?
By pcity_substance Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:58 pm
ok fellas... i apologize for over reacting.... i shouldnt have even took it that far.... i let the anger get the best of me.... thank you all for helping me out though guys... but i did find a very good deal on the mpc 4000!!! for $750!!! is this a good price?