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DJ Hellfire wrote:

mcroepster wrote:

gertie wrote:3 new mpc products coming out....and akai dont seem too bothered to pop in here

maybe a sign of things to come for the beata testers who preordered


So many questions, so many uncertainties....I know..lets make a video of pink flashing pads...that will answer a lot of critics

it just seems like old akai again....we have dan aka paris in here, going on about how they admitted things were done badly in the past, but that he was on a mission to set things straight...i guess he got sidetracked doing shotouts in his latest video lol

just as well they dont have their OWN akai forum.....cos they are piss poor when it comes to the mpc community

So true.

I wouldn't pop in here either if there was always a bunch of assholes talking **** to me about a bunch of **** that ain't even my fault! Some of you dudes are worse than a naggin ass ****. And who wants to come home from a hard days work and log on to a wife doing nothing but complaining and expressing their disappointment in you?! The **** ya'll expect really?!

Man, no disrespect to you.
Seems to me that you did nothing wrong.

my post was nothing about the new products, it was about akai's lousy performance re mpc community....I mean theyre all on about changing the game, bringing the ipad into the studio....but for some reason they cant use their ipad apps and update some user questions on this site.....bizarre really

This is nothing about hate, its more a case of showing them for what they are.

I would love for akai to step up their game. Wheres the hate in that?

By the way reactions like yours are very hostile and negative.....no wonder other peoples feathers is getting ruffled in here

yeah Hellfire, quit the hate, it doesnt look well having you on a banner for this site and outbursts like that...how many of your outbursts have been locked down already

Lampdog wrote:Yeah, peeps that aren't going to buy it then don't buy it. Move along and spend your time on something that interests you. Just spitefully continuing to return and talk trash does nothing but speak on you and your character. Everyone has opinions yes but do we constantly have to read the hate. Constantly?!

Some dudes need to get a grip.

@gertie
It couldn't possibly be that they are busying developing this product?

Besides...most of the users questions have been answered in more ways than one.

Where's the hate? I could point to quite a few of your posts aimed at Akai and at other forum members that don't share the same hate as you. I would say 90% of your posts in this forum have been negative and not needed.

fair enough JAH...least you dont loose the plot, which is something to be said for

i would disagree on the point that most users questions have been answered...even you have been saying...well have to wait and see, the product isnt out yet.

well if theyre so busy developing the product how comes theres so much attention going out to making lots of new videos...it doesnt add up.....i think it would be great if they were to give more details on the machine, rather than another video from a studio with shoutouts, but that just me...if they dont know the details cos the product isnt out yet...then why the videos?

gertie wrote:fair enough JAH...least you dont loose the plot, which is something to be said for

i would disagree on the point that most users questions have been answered...even you have been saying...well have to wait and see, the product isnt out yet.

well if theyre so busy developing the product how comes theres so much attention going out to making lots of new videos...it doesnt add up.....i think it would be great if they were to give more details on the machine, rather than another video from a studio with shoutouts, but that just me...if they dont know the details cos the product isnt out yet...then why the videos?

I think its their right to do as many videos as they like. And since this isn't an official Akai forum, they have no obligation to post anything here...but they have. Now every Tom, Dick, and Harry wants every single question answered. As you can see....its not going to come when you want. These fellas do have other priorities.

As far as the details of the product, as much as Akai wants you to know is on their website, in these threads, and included in some of the videos. People here will have to be satisfied with that. Andy's most recent videos have plenty of information in them.

Besides...there is so much unrelated chatter inbetween these questions, it will take hours to read through them. If you care that much about a specific question(s), why don't you compile them and put them in one past so they can be easily found if/when Andy or Dan returns.

JAH wrote:
As far as the details of the product, as much as Akai wants you to know is on their website, in these threads, and included in some of the videos.
Andy's most recent videos have plenty of information in them.

in my opinion the 2 most relevant points are:

- Sample Rates Up to 24 bit / 96 kHz

- Resolution: 960 pulses per 1/4-note

JAH wrote: People here will have to be satisfied with that.

I am not satisfied

my advanced brain needs more, jah.

I just luv the forums

gertie wrote:my post was nothing about the new products, it was about akai's lousy performance re mpc community....I mean theyre all on about changing the game, bringing the ipad into the studio....but for some reason they cant use their ipad apps and update some user questions on this site.....bizarre really

This is nothing about hate, its more a case of showing them for what they are.

I would love for akai to step up their game. Wheres the hate in that?

By the way reactions like yours are very hostile and negative.....no wonder other peoples feathers is getting ruffled in here

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My point is that some of you are barking at Dan and Andy for some shit that happened before they were even in their current positions. Another thing is that those two do not own the company, nor do they run it. So coming at them with hostile toned questions and remarks every time they pop on is not inviting, which you often do. Not everybody gives a **** about the 5000 update, nor is this the forum for that. There's a 5000 section, or you can PM them. But you've often brought it up here. Your questions often revolves around Akai's lack of customer service in the past. That shit doesn't need to be brought up EVERY TIME they pop up on here. If you do happen to ask a question about the new gen MPC's there's always some hostile "tone" to your questions disguise as general concern regarding the machines limitions or short comings. Dan and Andy didn't ruin Akai, they just work there. You can act like you aren't intentionally being hostile all you want, but any person with common sense reading your posts can read between the **** lines! Damn near every one of your posts is telling Akai what the **** they are doing wrong. Who wants to read that shit all day? You dudes just need to chill out. You don't have to praise the new products, but damn, there's a more mature way to voice your concerns without bashing something you haven't even used yet.

gertie wrote:yeah Hellfire, quit the hate, it doesnt look well having you on a banner for this site and outbursts like that...how many of your outbursts have been locked down already

Who gives a ****?! That banner doesn't "rule" me or say I can't call an **** an **** when he's being an ****! As far as my outbursts "being locked down", if you paid any attention you'd know that the purpose of the single "outburst" of mine that got locked was intended to get the thread locked down because it was stupid. And I don't "outburst" on no one that doesn't deserve it! Political correctness ain't my forte! And I definitely don't give a **** about ruffling no bird feathers!

I mean, just look at your posts since Ren was announced and then you tell me who's hating! While you do have some legitimate concerns, you come across as nothing more than a pure **** troll. And this is just 2 pages worth of your 5 pages of Ren posts. All of your trolling can be read here:

search.php?keywords=&terms=all&author=gertie&fid%5B%5D=36&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search.

gertie wrote:going on past performance it will be full of bugs

only 64 tracks.....

gertie wrote:does it have a beatthang mode?

gertie wrote:where the bug subforum?

gertie wrote:this is numark riding on the back of akais legacy......bollocks to all this talk of the old akai making a comeback

gertie wrote:Id be well impressed if akai actually for once did something useful for its users....make a little software utility which will be comptabile for all its machines, both new and legacy....eg make a program with samples on your pc and convert it into any other mpc format.....its quite ridiculous akai never developed this yet...... it shouldnt take too much coding....
at the moment mpc editor (for the 3k) seems no longer to be for sale....and the free version removed this: MPC3000 formatter that allows Windows XP write to MPC3000 disks

go on JAH...make it happen...purrrrrlease

why have the software be able to convert from any type mpc format for load into renaissance, and not have it work the other way round too?? doesnt make sense to me...unless of course akai only care about new sales, and not about all those customers who previously bought machines

gertie wrote:history of akai mpcs....

akai mpc60 - limited os - expanded by roger linn....
akai mpc3000 - limited os - expanded by vallaxi
akai mpc1k, akai mpc2.5k - limited os - expanded by JJ
akai mpc4000 - unfinised os...still some bugs
akai mpc5000 unfinished os......still some bugs

only the akai 2000 and 2000xl are the ones with stable limited software and no one to expand it hehehe

sorry mpc500 folks

watching joes vid.......look as if they renaisance aint all what it seems...YET....they are at namm and demoing it with a notebook that doesnt even have VSTs installed ....i guess that bit needs to be coded properly first before they try and show it...

gertie wrote:would be great if you could post some links of stuff actually working instead of dud prototypes which are nowhere close to being finished, they havent even coded vst part yet and he couldnt even demo timestretch

gertie wrote:yeah, im sure they'd love to copy and paste JJ's code into the Ren

gertie wrote:yeah, akai taking simon to the next level

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8Q_Dz-TQjk

gertie wrote:The MPC was sold out when numark bought Akai

Three new MPC products....10 coders.....a guess a lot of pizza and overtime is coming up for these kids

gertie wrote:I wonder which forums they been checking lol.......many a request for a mpc5000 update after 2.0, they seems to have missed all those posts....likewise for the mpc4000, likewise for the mpc500......

10 kids coding.....dont get your hopes up....wouldnt surprise me if they coders are based in india

looking very sheepish, that rep, at about 7.55 when he the reviewer starts talking about previous updates to other machines

gertie wrote:what am i supposed to get?

that its a different company now, which lately has released buggy mpcs, even mpcs with crap pads, and had the cheek to charge customers for a pad upgrade?

which all of a sudden says it listens to its customers, checks out forums....but hasnt dont so with the mpc5k, the mpc500, even the mpc400 which they mentioned about fixing?

numark are milking the mpc brandname for all they can get....i guess its only business....

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=110760 you refer to a workstation, standalone, with adat ...yeah, ren looks really similar to that

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=108626 refers to a competition to the maschine....nothing wrong with that

however this issue with akai as pointed out in this topic...(108626)

>> Why don't Akai just produce a software editor for the 5k, with all the features you are talking about? If they make it VST compliant they will have another great selling point for the 5k. How hard would it be to do??

>>Aksys is so outdated.

akai seem to bring out products and then let them die a slow death......no 64 bit support for aksys....how hard would that be? I really dont care what akai decide lol......it is weird however, that a lot of people seem to have forgotten akai's lousy customer service record....I'm only judgin akai by past experience, espeically since numark bought em...I would love to be proved wrong, but i guess i just dont get it

JAH wrote:

gertie wrote:that was the old Akai before they went bankrupt and were bought by Numark

JAH-KAI you just dont get it do you.....

So why does the MPC Ren look very similar (if not indentical) to these:

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=108626
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=110760

gertie...you just don't get it.

gertie wrote:there are just too many whys to be honest lol

why did akai never complete the os for the mpc4k
why did someone representing akai (scd) request a bug report for the mpc4k and then do nothing
why did akai never come out with a new os for the mpc5k since version 2.0? you say its on your radar but frankly thats lame....its almost THREE years ago since 2.0 was released,,,and that, only cos just blaze ripped your product to pieces
why did jj have to make the mpc1k and mpc25k what they are today?
no 64 bit support....another fail
original mpc1000 blue pad upgrade...another fail.....

you say youre incorporating features x,y,z on these controllers based on feedback from users on the forums, on mpc3000 users....how comes ya never did nowt for all the users with os problems...you cant have it both ways...

sure youve a big hype on this new computer controller move yourve made....but you have seriously screwed up concerning stand alone mpcs

think about this.....a lot of people who may possibly buy these new products...are current standalone mpc users....who have been neglected for ages now....

you say you have no resources to have your own forum, yet you are releasing a bunch of new products, not only the mpc controllers

it just doesnt add up

ok, i go crawl under my rock now....

ps i pity the beat testers who buy these products when they come out

pps the rant is not aimed at xparis001, its aimed at akai

gertie wrote:well if numarki and their cronies werent in here with the hype maschine i wouldnt be sayin nuttin
how comes numark werent around here when their akai products were full of bugs or dodgy components?
how comes the messe videos theyre all wearing tshirts with numark? cos it aint akai, its only numark jumping on the akai brand it aquired when akai went bust

tell numark to leave akai alone....

ps if it wasnt for peapols like us, numark would be releasin crud gear, so you can thank us later for letting numark step up their game

gertie wrote:It doesnt tick me off.....it cheers me up...my daily giggle so to speak

hmmm...so akai won an award for the best unfinished product....well it doesnt say much bout the award does it lol....

>>more than 100 magazines from all over the world voted for the best musical instruments

oh let me guess....numark advertise their products in these magtzines....and these magazines vote for numark....

gertie wrote:yes, for the record, most active users using numark products use a third party software upgrade cos the numark os SUCKS

JAH wrote: And for the record, most active users on this site use Akai/Numark MPCs.

And these are just the hate posts from ONE person, not even counting all the other trolls' posts. So let me ask again, if you were Dan or Andy, would YOU want to log onto this shit everyday after work? Talk about ruffling feathers!

There are several forum members (I foe'd 12 of them) that if they refrained from posting in the MPC Ren forum, it would be a significantly better place to visit.

DJ Hellfire wrote:

gertie wrote:

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DJ Hellfire wrote:

gertie wrote:

gertie wrote:

DJ Hellfire wrote:

gertie wrote:

gertie wrote:

ánimo Gertie!!

éste colectivo de matones deberian de crear su propio foro, para no crear más problemas, ya que, es el rincón del foro más problematico.

JAH wrote:There are several forum members (I foe'd 12 of them) that if they refrained from posting in the MPC Ren forum, it would be a significantly better place to visit.

posiblemente yo sea uno de esos 12 apostoles perteneciente al apartado "FOE" que usted menciona.

sí sí... que lo sepa todo el mundo!!!

cuando al ser humano se dice la misma mentira al oido repetidamente una y otra vez sin descanso, se hace tan creible e incluso más qué una gran verdad dicha una sola vez. (psicologia )

esten tranquilos chicos!!! dada la semejante carga psicológica como método utilizado, por supuesto que tendrán venta sus nuevos productos ( lo digo mucho antes de que salgan a la luz los nuevos productos ), pero todo el mundo sabrá por quién es respaldada semejante mentira.



ahora diré algo más constructivo y fundamental en cuanto a musicalidad.......

les invito a que afinen a 432 hz, no a 440 hertzios, por favor. ( sinó, informense por medio de otras fuentes, ya que yo no soy de fiar. )

pero tú en qué afinas jah?
y tú en que afinas hellfire?

saludos y alabanzas a los administradores/moderadores de éste gran foro, dado el éxito y la solidez mostrada.

Gracias.

DJ Hellfire wrote:if you were Dan or Andy, would YOU want to log onto this **** everyday after work?

they just have to in case they are actually caring about their customers. seems like they give a fvck what their customers want as nukai did ever since...

well im sure andy, mpc tutor gives a **** if new potential customers come in here, and get put off by your obnoxious behaviour....show some respect for him will ya.

as you can see by my posts which you have been very kind to put together for me ........most of it is taking the piss....and sarcasm with a hint of truth....even Paris aka Dan agreed with me on a couple of points....

none of my posts got locked down, except for one, when i was asking if there were any videos, again sarcasm.....since there had been about 4 seperate threads with the same new video

wheres the links of me wishing akai luck with their new products, and their quest for decent customer care?

yeah, youre very selective mr hellfire...

anyways...behave as you like.....as if i care , it does make me laugh how you loose the plot about haters....and are the biggest hater of em all....

**** wrote:

DJ Hellfire wrote:if you were Dan or Andy, would YOU want to log onto this **** everyday after work?

they just have to in case they are actually caring about their customers. seems like they give a fvck what their customers want as nukai did ever since...

The first thing Dan said when he started coming around was if it got hostile, he wouldn't be coming around. So it's not like people weren't warned. He ain't obligated to come here and **** off with us. That's not really his job! He was doing it on his free time OFF THE CLOCK and dudes still did just talk mad shit, like he can change the past. It ain't right! It's ok to voice concerns, but the same bitching over and over get's old quick.