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By psr Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:54 am
Has anyone here ever heard of KOMA Elektroniks? They make a couple of impressive analog pedals. I'm really intrigued by the low pass filter. The delay seems cool to but the filter is dope. It has a 10 step sequencer and motion control sensors. loads of cv controls for the modular cats too. I'd love to see this paired with my MPC 5000 synth.



http://www.koma-elektronik.com/ft201/

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The FT201 Analog Filter / 10-Step Sequencer is our innovative voltage controlled vactrol state variable filter combined with a 10 step sequencer. The FT201 is capable of providing ultra low and high frequency filter effects which are controllable with the on board infrared expression controller, which allows the user to create filter sweeps by moving their feet or hands over the pedal. The FT201 has 3 different filter outputs: bandpass, low pass and high pass, which all work simultaneously. The cutoff frequency range is very large, between 20 Hz and 20 kHz and because of the vactrols used the sound quality is superb. The 10 Step Sequencer runs through the selected amount of steps (2 – 10 steps) and adds the control voltage to the value set by the Cutoff knob, thus modulating the cutoff frequency in every step.




The Delay unit
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The KOMA Elektronik BD101 Analog Gate / Delay is an innovative voltage controlled analog delay in combination with a fully adjustable wide frequency range gate. The BD101 is capable of providing bit crushing effects, resonant frequencies, fast shifts between heavy delayed and cranked up sounds and super short pulses, with whatever instrument you want to plug into it. With the on board infrared expression controller the user is able to override / control all the front panel controls by moving their hands or feet over it, which makes the pedal a versatile and powerful tool for use live or in the studio.


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By psr Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:20 pm
scoobylol wrote:Never heard of them but I would like one of each. 370-ish euros each seems reasonable too when you consider the Moog delay prices these days.


precisely. I was thinking the same thing. Hell the Moog delay when it was in production was more like $799. i can opnly imagine what it is now that they dont make them anymore on after market

Koma -
Filter Price
389.- USD (NON EU)
349,- EUR (EU)

Delay Price
369.- USD (NON EU)
329,- EUR (EU)
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By scoobylol Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:24 pm
psr wrote:
scoobylol wrote:Never heard of them but I would like one of each. 370-ish euros each seems reasonable too when you consider the Moog delay prices these days.


precisely. I was thinking the same thing. Hell the Moog delay when it was in production was more like $799. i can opnly imagine what it is now that they dont make them anymore on after market

Koma -
Filter Price
389.- USD (NON EU)
349,- EUR (EU)

Delay Price
369.- USD (NON EU)
329,- EUR (EU)


I swear I saw one being sold on eBay for £900. Absolute joke really. As beautiful as Moog products always are, that's far too much IMO for a pedal.

Also, while we're on that subject, on these Koma ones how is a guitarist supposed to use the Roland D-beam-esque sensors? With his foot? :lol:

At todays prices the delay comes out at £271 plus free postage in the EU! Seems pretty reasonable to me. Might have to treat myself to one next pay day. I just got myself an old rackmount Yamaha TX unit on ebay super cheap, and I would like to run it through something hands on before it ends up in Abezzz.
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By psr Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:08 am
http://www.moogmusic.com/products/mooge ... -midi-murf

I never knew that the moogerfooger midi murf is a 8 filter pedal with sliders. So this Koma filter with 10 step filter is essentially a midi murf with two extra steps for damn near half the price. Dope gotta have it.
By Shinigami Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:28 am
I think that filter looks cool but I'd not expect to get the same sounds that you can achieve with the midi murf. Most of the fun to be had with the murf for me is with the envelope settings. Also the drive on the murf really gives it some - I use the drive on the murf a lot of the time without using the filter section.

Would consider the Koma filter as it does band pass and high pass which is something I need but the Vermona Lancet filter looks to be a bit nicer for that still (if you weren't interested in the sequencer).
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By psr Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:48 am
Shinigami wrote:I think that filter looks cool but I'd not expect to get the same sounds that you can achieve with the midi murf. Most of the fun to be had with the murf for me is with the envelope settings. Also the drive on the murf really gives it some - I use the drive on the murf a lot of the time without using the filter section.


Good to know. i dont have any reference point for the midi murf . I dont know that. good stuff. If I could I would love to have mooger fooger midi murf and ring modulator. still like this filter by Koma though

Coz wrote:It was weird seeing him run the Andromeda through the filter... I know how nice the onboard filter is on the Andromeda. 8)


yeah i bet that Andromeda is nice. it gets the point across about the sound of this filter though.

scoobylol wrote:Also, while we're on that subject, on these Koma ones how is a guitarist supposed to use the Roland D-beam-esque sensors? With his foot? :lol:


word with his bare foot.. :lol: drummer yells out WIGGLE UR TOES CHUMP! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
By tektoktiktak Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:07 am
scoobylol wrote:
psr wrote:
scoobylol wrote:Never heard of them but I would like one of each. 370-ish euros each seems reasonable too when you consider the Moog delay prices these days.


precisely. I was thinking the same thing. Hell the Moog delay when it was in production was more like $799. i can opnly imagine what it is now that they dont make them anymore on after market

Koma -
Filter Price
389.- USD (NON EU)
349,- EUR (EU)

Delay Price
369.- USD (NON EU)
329,- EUR (EU)


I swear I saw one being sold on eBay for £900. Absolute joke really. As beautiful as Moog products always are, that's far too much IMO for a pedal.

Also, while we're on that subject, on these Koma ones how is a guitarist supposed to use the Roland D-beam-esque sensors? With his foot? :lol:

At todays prices the delay comes out at £271 plus free postage in the EU! Seems pretty reasonable to me. Might have to treat myself to one next pay day. I just got myself an old rackmount Yamaha TX unit on ebay super cheap, and I would like to run it through something hands on before it ends up in Abezzz.


The Moog Delay is a completely different pedal though. The KOMA BD101 Gate / Delay is made to chop up sound, really tear it apart. The delay range goes up to 2 seconds, but the sound will be distorted and "bitcrushed". When you are looking for that it's ideal, when you are looking for smooth delay sounds I would personally go for something else...

great example of what kind of sounds it can make:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/EilmPJG51R4[/youtube]

The sensor is pretty versatile, also for guitar players, here's the guitarplayer from the locust playing around with it, but indeed, it can be a bit hard to learn it, but once you know how to do it... it works well:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/K_mPRiM8QmY[/youtube]
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By psr Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:19 pm
Thanks tektoktiktak Are you from Koma? PlantyHerbs? thanks for dropping by and commenting. Yeah i know the delay is different from the moogerfooger delay. But i dig the pedals though. definitely on my list for 2012. I'm more interested in the filter but I'd like to use both on my MPC 5000 synth. that would be sick.

here let me fix the vids up for u

great example of what kind of sounds it can make:



The sensor is pretty versatile, also for guitar players, here's the guitarplayer from the locust playing around with it, but indeed, it can be a bit hard to learn it, but once you know how to do it... it works well:

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By psr Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:25 pm
scoobylol wrote:I just got myself an old rackmount Yamaha TX unit on ebay super cheap, and I would like to run it through something hands on before it ends up in Abezzz.



nice...

I looked up Yamaha TX and found this
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im like :o :shock:


then I saw synth explorer
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im like ohhhhh word thats more like it. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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By scoobylol Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:31 pm
TX18Z :)

It's more or less DX7 sounds in a much smaller footprint. Ideal really! The downside I have at the moment is no MIDI cables... whoops haha. Can't wait to get her fired up though, and get programming. It will be a bit of a pain given the interface but that's half the fun IMO.

Really I'd like both of these pedals. Can you imagine controlling the filter of an evolving sound with the beam things??? Even with your foot as you were playing a synth or something... so interesting.

I need to consider which one I'd use most. I like the idea of the filter, but then again I'd really like to use the bit crushing of the delay. Wonder if they'd do me a deal? haha.