Thinking about the EB-16

mpc3000 wrote:"There is a sony w/ 4 engines."

This has been mentioned twice but without a model number. A name would help, else it smells like vaporware. etc. etc. etc..

Word, I guess I got it twisted between 'channels' and actual number of i/o. Could've sworn I seen it when I was deciding between the card and the outboard, but, you have alot of knowledge and I definately believe you. The cat asked if the card was a ripoff, which he had been told by others. I say, yeah it is, and that's my opinion. I think the algorythms sound terrible, even for the money and convenience. I definately think cats would appreciate you straitening out some misinformation on those units I mentioned, but you taking it too far. C'mon, you telling me you need 15 years experience to run a reverb through an aux channel on a board? You telling me the term 'pre fader' doesn't exist? If you really believe both of those statements, you in the wrong business, dog.
True enough tho: the card is very convenient, keeps it all in the box, and you don't need a board to mix the efx w/. In my opinion, even my old ass Alesis midiverb4 was more useable than the EB16. But I realize that the dude had bought the thing already, and it does what it does. My take is, if you got other gear, it'll blow that joint out the water, point blank. I don't record efx to tape, but it was ok for making 2 tracks & beat tapes. If you use one, don't take it personal, but I'm glad I have other efx now, is all I'm sayin. If you like convenience over sound, yeah, it's great. Why don't you google the word "Nerd"...

"you telling me you need 15 years experience to run a reverb through an aux channel on a board? "

Where exactly is that quote? I don'y see it.

"You telling me the term 'pre fader' doesn't exist?"

Never said that either. The term you used, which I quoted, was "prefader bussing", which I have never heard, and neither has google. It does not exist and if it did, would be a useless buss. Anyone in the business for more than a few months would have spotted that.

I will take 'nerb' any day of the week over 'wrong'. Of course, in your words, I "don't take it personal" since name calling is expected of children.

mpc3000 wrote:"you can accomplish a better sound with more options in an outboard piece"

Would I say all this to someone that has been doing this for 20 years? Sure I would, but most of the people around here like simplicity and ease of use. .

Your talking down to folks, mang. If they wanna build up they studio, it's their call. If I'm wrong about a model number or a spec, that's one thing, but you spending time tryina make a dude look lesser than, rather than making a point. And mine was: Ouboard gear usually sounds better than the card. Convenience often sacrifices quality, although that's a choice the user gotta make.