By b-righteous
Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:12 pm
Would like an MPC to finally allow you to totally disable input quantize regardless of grid settings. Most sequencers let you do this in a preference. I never want to quantize on input unless using note repeat where it is necessary. Always run into a situation where I use the grid to edit or quantize and forget to turn it off. Then I record the perfect track only to find out the input quantize ruined it so it's gone forever. Should not have to manage or think about that every time I want to record.
By xparis001
Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:20 pm
b-righteous wrote:Would like an MPC to finally allow you to totally disable input quantize regardless of grid settings. Most sequencers let you do this in a preference. I never want to quantize on input unless using note repeat where it is necessary. Always run into a situation where I use the grid to edit or quantize and forget to turn it off. Then I record the perfect track only to find out the input quantize ruined it so it's gone forever. Should not have to manage or think about that every time I want to record.
Renaissance is 960 ppqn, and you can turn off quantize easily. you can press note repeat and whatever button is lit, just press it again, that turns it off. I see where you're coming from however. you want to be able to have snapping gridlines, but never quantize the input, right? Thats an interesting idea, actually... Quantize on input. It's not something we have yet, because MPCs never had it. once you set quantize that was it. probably people who wanted to work like you work just got used to toggling quantize on and off. the note repeat thing is the easiest way to do it as of now, but its a good request fo the future.
Dan G.
- Product Manager, Akai Professional
- Product Manager, Akai Professional
By b-righteous
Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:50 pm
probably people who wanted to work like you work just got used to toggling quantize on and off.
Right, and I always thought it hurt the workflow. The 4k had a one push button with led for tc so it made it easier but still. Your suggestion about the note repeat is interesting. Never thought about using that to toggle the grid off. On other sequencers I never have to worry about it though. I think this should be added at some point.
By szr
Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:50 pm
After watching the last renaissance vids, I remember seeing lots of room for streamlining the workflow further:
For example erase method:
If you make a mistake in one bar while recording a pattern.. there should be a button that jumps you back two bars, and auto erases the last bar recorded...
For example erase method:
If you make a mistake in one bar while recording a pattern.. there should be a button that jumps you back two bars, and auto erases the last bar recorded...
By GodDevilWhatever
Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:11 pm
szr wrote:After watching the last renaissance vids, I remember seeing lots of room for streamlining the workflow further:
For example erase method:
If you make a mistake in one bar while recording a pattern.. there should be a button that jumps you back two bars, and auto erases the last bar recorded...
That is brilliant! I definitely do not want to stop, go back, then scroll, highlight, then delete. Or touch the **** ing mouse.

By Blue Haze
Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:58 pm
Blue Haze wrote:Not sure if I saw it or not in the videos, but on the 4k main page you could change the duration and velocity of a note or all notes using add, subtract, and total control that I assume is in Ren.
Along coming from the software side could loop start be an assignable parameter like in ableton live?
Also if it is included like in the 4k can you have 2 parts per channel which allows layering of drum kits easier not just individual hits.
Of course I assume like on the 4 and 5 you have a pad editor which allows you to change the samples as the sequencer plays?
Maybe just maybe allow the stock eq plugins show up in the mixer page also beyond the effects and inserts pages for us old timers that are used to mackies and heaths.

By JAH
Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:56 am
I love feature requests and the addition of new functions....
The only thing that concerns me are changes that alter what MPCs have always done in the past and/or lose functions that previous MPCs had.
1. The MPC 4000 has a great way to add Insert Effects while in Sampling Mode. Awesome! But the MPC 2500 and 5000 that came after it was missing this function.
2. Waveform editing....I am so thankful this was added back to the LCD of the MPC Ren.
3. Beat Loop Function. The MPC 2000XL can detect the tempo of a loop near flawlessly. I don't remember if the MPC 4000 can do the same...but no new MPC can accomplish this.
4. The MPC 2500/5000 not supporting the higher sample rates like the MPC 4000.
Just a few off the top of my head.....I believe that new MPCs should encompass all the features of past MPCs to the greatest extent. Then they will be more appealing tp a wide range of MPC users.
The only thing that concerns me are changes that alter what MPCs have always done in the past and/or lose functions that previous MPCs had.
1. The MPC 4000 has a great way to add Insert Effects while in Sampling Mode. Awesome! But the MPC 2500 and 5000 that came after it was missing this function.
2. Waveform editing....I am so thankful this was added back to the LCD of the MPC Ren.
3. Beat Loop Function. The MPC 2000XL can detect the tempo of a loop near flawlessly. I don't remember if the MPC 4000 can do the same...but no new MPC can accomplish this.
4. The MPC 2500/5000 not supporting the higher sample rates like the MPC 4000.
Just a few off the top of my head.....I believe that new MPCs should encompass all the features of past MPCs to the greatest extent. Then they will be more appealing tp a wide range of MPC users.
JAHROME, MPC Aficionado
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By Blue Haze
Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:42 am
The 4k uses the loop tempo functions after you changes the sample end point to loop or you go to bpm page to find the tempo by beats. But yet the Ren should have the same thing in believe.

By Blue Haze
Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:35 am
No punch line. As long as constructive, positive results come out I will thank everybody and waveform editing is a nice addition so I will thank you both my fellow users. Golden week in one more day!! 
By MPCWeapon1
Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:22 am
I wonder if it'll have an algorithm to make single cycle loops easier to create. That's a tedious process to do manually.
I could do without the 3 GB of stock sounds. Give me an auto single cycle loop feature so I can use the MP like its supposed to be used on a computer.
I could do without the 3 GB of stock sounds. Give me an auto single cycle loop feature so I can use the MP like its supposed to be used on a computer.

By JAH
Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:16 am
MPCWeapon1 wrote:I wonder if it'll have an algorithm to make single cycle loops easier to create. That's a tedious process to do manually.
I could do without the 3 GB of stock sounds. Give me an auto single cycle loop feature so I can use the MP like its supposed to be used on a computer.
How do you mean exactly regarding the loops?
6 GBs of sounds is part of the package. No leading software sampler ships without a multi gig library that I am aware of. While I do like the addition of VST support, being able to load 3rd party sample formats would be awesome. Companies like Roland and NI produced/produce products that can load Akai and MPC formats. It would be great in MV and Maschine programs could be loaded into the MPC Ren.
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By MPCWeapon1
Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:10 am
True MPC users like creating their own sounds and aren't into stock sounds.
Single Cycle looping is advance sampling. It enables you to create instruments by sampling sounds and giving them a continuous tone. In the MP you have to do it manually, but there is software out there that has algorithms that auto detect the single cycle loop points..the 4k even has the feature, but it's not that accurate.
Single Cycle looping is advance sampling. It enables you to create instruments by sampling sounds and giving them a continuous tone. In the MP you have to do it manually, but there is software out there that has algorithms that auto detect the single cycle loop points..the 4k even has the feature, but it's not that accurate.

By Blue Haze
Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:18 am
I support both a installed sample library and sampling your own sounds. However releasing a software instrument with no sound library would not be in the best interest of the user or the company when every competing product comes with stock instruments beyond drums like bass, synths, pianos, and the such. It is a given that a user can use their own existing custom sounds.
It is a non issue at this point since the stock sounds can be stored on an external drive and within the HD based studio you can work up to 1 terabyte of disk memory or more.
Also with a dedicated audio editor like bia peak, sound forge we can do single cycle looping. It would be a great suggestion that has been added by jah already to have third party audio editor option added to the Ren like the 4k has with aksys.
It is a non issue at this point since the stock sounds can be stored on an external drive and within the HD based studio you can work up to 1 terabyte of disk memory or more.
Also with a dedicated audio editor like bia peak, sound forge we can do single cycle looping. It would be a great suggestion that has been added by jah already to have third party audio editor option added to the Ren like the 4k has with aksys.

By JAH
Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:51 am
MPCWeapon1 wrote:True MPC users like creating their own sounds and aren't into stock sounds.
Shhhh...I wouldn't say that too loud. This site is here for selling MPC Samples as well as us ranting about Akai.
I am sure the MPC Ren stock sounds will include instruments that "true MPC users" aren't necessarily inclined to create themselves. But instead load and then tweaked to individual needs.
On that note, I will probably convert my Maschine libary to an MPC Program format to use within the MPC Ren.
JAHROME, MPC Aficionado
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