MPC5000 reviews, bug reports and fellow user support on the most recent standalone, hardware MPC from Akai
By Badalamenti Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:15 am
Hi friends. I'm trying to multitrack through the ADAT of the MPC 5000. I bought an RME interface specially for this reason and now I understand that there's something so simple that I can't figure out. Multitracking was my dream for 2 years ago and now when I made everything to make it happen - I can't make it. Would you please tell me how do you set each track (TRACK) on the MPC5000 on it's own channel so they can be detected in the DAW as ADAT channels 1-8 and record them simultaneously.

All I can do for now is to record the main outs of the MPC or each of the three synths I'm using but this way I can't track out each track individually ... There is something that has to be done on the MPC itself to separate 8 tracks on 8 channels. Please help me !

I know that our friend psr has much experience with the 5000 so I hope he'll help too. Thanks !
By Badalamenti Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:03 am
OK I can now record the track with the drum sounds through ADAT by giving them a Channel Out numbers from the PRG MIX menu and then selecting their ADAT mirrors in the DAW. That's fine and it works perfectly ! But still can't figure out how to give a channel out to the MIDI tracks where I have recorded the melodies from the synths .... Is it really possible ? There is no channels OUT in the TRK Mixer of the MPC , so obviously the method with the drum tracks won't work. Any ideas ?



P.S I just found that the rumor about not being able to record the MPC effects when tracking out through ADAT is true .... :( I put an MPC reverb effect on one of the drums I prepared to track out, but the reverb is not active. So when a sound is applied to one of the ADAT out's and you put whatever effect on this sound the effect won't be active. When I change the OUT of the sound from ADAT channel to the MAIN OU't (L/R) the effects comes in. That's not very optimistic as the exported sounds through the ADAT will be totally dry. So you'll have to add effects later when you're editing the beat in your DAW. Well ... life is not perfect as we know ...

Still can't figure out is there a way to set the midi tracks from the MPC as ADAT channels in the DAW and export them simultaneously.... Any ideas friends ?
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By Lampdog Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:36 pm
Many people in the past said the same thing about effects not being able to be routed through the analog 8's of the 2kxl. I've heard the SAME thing about 4k's adat outs and not being able to route effects through it. I have both machines and I've routed effects through both of them when I read that I couldn't. I don't believe that 5k can't route effects via adat.

If your handling a midi synth via mpc then the mpc track it's on should be type MIDI not drum. MIDI is not audio, the synth audio out goes -> interface. It wont show up in your mpc mixer, what synth are we talking about again?
By Badalamenti Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:22 pm
Hi again Lampdog ! Yea the MPC5000 is not able to route an effect through ADAT and I'm positive about it. I didn't believe it too in the past but know it's in front of my eyes and ears.

Yea I believe you're right about the MIDI and ADAT. I use Kurzweil PC3, Korg Radias and Roland JV 1080. I use this setup for many years but tracked out the beats through the MAINS only. But now when I figure out how to track out the drum tracks I'm almost done, because the main problems with the latency and synchronization of the beats come from the drums and 808 SUBS which will be now exported through the ADAT too ... So now I intend to track out 8 tracks at a time and I'll leave one L/R track for one of the MIDI tracks. So that's 9 tracks simultaneously. :)
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By Lampdog Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:30 pm
Midi kybd audio doesn't travel through mpc L/R.

I'm going to check the 5k manual because I really don't believe that. I'll pm someone who has a 5k and give this link to your thread.

I don't why 5k users are shy to jump into this thread.

Also this


search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&keywords=adat+effects&fid%5B%5D=29
By Badalamenti Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:57 pm
Hmm I'll check again if it's possible to track the 8's along with one MIDi through the stereo (the rest tracks will be muted).

But I checked your link, thanks for this, and I found some good news - "you only lose the MASTER EFFECTS on the channels that don't carry the Main Out channels, you can set up the 'normal' FX to be routed to any of the assigneable channels.
MASTER FX (EQ + Compressor) are only available on the Stereo Out."


Actually I rarely use the MASTER effects, I'm using mostly the reverbs and delays :) . So now what I have to learn is how to route these effects to go through the ADAT.
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By Lampdog Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:30 pm
Sometimes you gotta go outta your normal routine in order to find stuff. From my 2kxl to 4k it messed my head up for a few weeks. Glad you found it though. I found those threads by searching the 5k forum using "adat + effect".
By CoinOP! Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:00 pm
You have 8 mono( adat )channels or one stereo and 6 mono channel which are selected in the mixer and your DAW.

If you want to route a Midi channel you should select one of the 16 channels of midi out ABC or D(bottom right) in the selected track. You don't have to select MIDI unless you want piano roll in grid edit.

FX routing shouldn't be an issue when selected in the mixer.
By Badalamenti Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:36 pm
CoinOP! thanks for your post. Do you mean that if I change the TYPE to be not MIDi but DRUM there is some way I can channel that MIDi track to ADAT ? Still the MIDI (bottom right) must be set to the MIDI channel that is for the synth you're using, otherwise it will not play, but the TYPE section can be changed - that's true. But is that a way to export this track to ADAT or I have misunderstood your designed ?
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By Lampdog Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:56 am
Midi has nothing to do adat. Midi is DATA only, it's NOT audio and therefore NEVER uses adat out.

midi is note performance data.
mixer to adat is audio.


CoinOP! wrote:You don't have to select MIDI unless you want piano roll in grid edit.


i have issues with that statement, I don't know about piano roll cause I don't use it enough in my 4k. A midi track for my triton is ALWAYS needed in my 4k in order for me to record midi data and change triton programs via my 4k piano roll or not.

Badalamenti wrote:CoinOP! thanks for your post. Do you mean that if I change the TYPE to be not MIDi but DRUM there is some way I can channel that MIDi track to ADAT ?
By CoinOP! Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:49 pm
In the track section of the MAIN window you have the Type option where you can select MIDI for a piano roll grid or Drum for drumgrid. Midi notes will always be recorded, whichever you select, in the MPC.

If you want to record Midi in your DAW via the MPC or a Midi keyboard hooked up on your MPC you the have to select a Midi channel far bottom right. Midi notes will be recorded in your DAW reggardless of Type(MIDi/DRUM).

For Adat you have to select a channel out in the mixer page (mode-pad7) at the top of the mixer. If you have selected an FX chain in the FX box it will be recorded when tracked to your DAW.

I'm not familiar with the RME, but you do have to setup your audiocard to receive ADAT.
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By Lampdog Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:23 pm
Rme adat, it locks in as soon as you get the sample rate correct (48khz) so the two devices can work together. No other setup for that.

I don't record midi into my daw at all. I use my 4k as sequencer, slave triton extreme to it. I always use mpc midi tracks when playing triton performance into the 4k sequencer, mpc drum track doesn't give me the device to choose programs (128). I only multitrack into computer for audio, never sequence.
By ntalec Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:45 pm
Sadly enough the ADAT on the 5k never worked for me because it has locked settings that aren't going to match what most people run their sessions at.

You can't get it to lock unless you reduce the quality of your session to the necessary settings of the 5k.
The 5k just wasn't important enough to make me give that up.

The ADAT on the 4k was a lot more realistically based..............and it's an older machine. :(