For discussion about setting up your studio and advice on the gear and equipment within it.
By zippertafari Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:17 pm
konc3pt wrote:which one is better this or op1 ?


The Teenage Engineering box ? I was thinking about getting either that or an Octatrack.
Op-1 is overpriced for what it does - but it seems more of an actual synth. It does sample - but is nowhere near as flexible.
Used one for a short while - its a hell of a lot of fun though...
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By smokemachine Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:34 pm
i think they are very different.

personally i would rather buy something that will last. that OP1 looks really flimsy.

the Octatrack is definitely a professional instrument. that said, it always matter what kind of sounds and workflow you are looking for.

no midi port is a huge drawback for me. i don't like to work with a DAW until i'm ready for mixing.
By Fess Wed May 02, 2012 5:01 pm
Octatrack-professional performance-based sampling instrument, actually useful, very well made, very steep learning curve.

OP-1- synth toy to make little dittys, inherent noise issue that can only be tamed with a noise isolator (which causes you to lose frequency ranges), poorly built, idiot-proof learning curve.
By Fess Wed May 02, 2012 5:15 pm
Ian Canefire wrote:I had an octatrack and was not inspired by it. Bought it for $900 and sold it for $800. Now I have an mpc4000 which I like much more.
Whatever floats your boat I guess.

cheers,
Ian



Ian, be honest...did you take the time to learn everything it does? I'll admit it took a few days to wrap my head around just the basics, but then I dug into it, manual right in my hand and discovered how powerful and useful it is. Now I have 2. Have you seen the OS 1.1 features? The upcoming OS 1.2 will knock cats on their asses! Elektron are in their own league for real.
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By Ian Canefire Wed May 02, 2012 5:35 pm
@FEss I think it is a very powerful unit. Electron has been good at working on the OS. I learned how to use about 75% of it. Much of what it could do I just was not going to do simply because I already have many synths.
Plus I am into soulful House, samba house, and DnB. The sort of noises you can make with it were not for me. I better spent my money getting an mpc 4000 for $500.
Electron got a few things right with it...like the GUI, the size, the loading and saving, and giving it a cross fader with locking capability was brilliant. More units need this feature.
I am not knocking it. My reality and vision was not in sync with Electron.
cheers,
Ian
By Fess Wed May 02, 2012 5:54 pm
Ian Canefire wrote:@FEss I think it is a very powerful unit. Electron has been good at working on the OS. I learned how to use about 75% of it. Much of what it could do I just was not going to do simply because I already have many synths.
Plus I am into soulful House, samba house, and DnB. The sort of noises you can make with it were not for me. I better spent my money getting an mpc 4000 for $500.
Electron got a few things right with it...like the GUI, the size, the loading and saving, and giving it a cross fader with locking capability was brilliant. More units need this feature.
I am not knocking it. My reality and vision was not in sync with Electron.
cheers,
Ian



I hear you. It's definitely not for everyone. The 4K is a beast. Nice grab for 5 bills :D
By Shinigami Thu May 03, 2012 12:38 am
vinyl_junkie_1620 wrote:You could do that and more on the Ensoniq EPS-16+ back in 91 using the mod wheel, after touch or LFOs's, it practically invented glitch.
There is a Modulation setting in the Ensoniq EPS-16+ which allows you to scrub through a sample (basically, the modweel designates the sample start point) backwards and forwards with the modwheel. It results in some of the coolest sounds and effects, depending on how you played while you used it (and what sample you were using it with)
it's called loop-position modulation and it's pretty much responsible for 90s glitch. autechre, fennesz, jan jelinek and countless mego/mille plateaux artists used it extensively. the ensoniq samplers were way ahead of their time

this feature is also what enables transwaves, kinda ensoniq's version of wavetable synthesis


Don't suppose you could give a little more detail on how to get this set up (I'm presuming it might be possible on the ASR-10 also)?

Cheers :)
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By jibber Thu May 03, 2012 9:48 am
Get an ASR-10 manual and start reading... i've seen the setting screens a few times already on mine and i have it only for about a month now... you should be able to find it in the manual and work it out yourself... the machine is not exactly rocket science in combination with the manual. :wink: