In LOAD screen, does the MPC preview samples direct from dis

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Do you guys know if the MPC previews/reads the samples in the LOAD screen directly from the disk?

yes it does.
you don`t have to load it to preview the sample (like on the 2kxl)

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so the mpc can play direct from disc.

This means that samples could be read direct from disc also from within a project, only you could not edit or do anything with these samples, just playback. But then we could have long files, exceeding 128MB, just playing as a background, that'd be cool.

you misunderstood... you can only PREVIEW the samples without loading them... if you want to use them in a program you would need to load them into memory and assign them to a program accordingly.

you misunderstood... you can only PREVIEW the samples without loading them... if you want to use them in a program

I did not say I wanted to use them in a program. I just want to be able to play them back from within the project. Imagine a new type of audio tracks that could play back audio samples directly from disc. You'd be able to play back samples, but you won't be able to edit them i.e. in the TRIM screen, and they won't be showing up in the PROGRAM screen.

i'm confused... are you putting in a request now? all i'm saying is that the MPC can currently not do what you're asking for... you can only preview samples from within the LOAD screen, not while in the MAIN screen.

not a request yet.

I was curious if it were possible.

ll i'm saying is that the MPC can currently not do what you're asking for... you can only preview samples from within the LOAD screen, not while in the MAIN screen.

The preview function plays back the sample. So if the MPC can play a sample DIRECTLY from disc from within the LOAD screen, it should be able to do the same from within the MAIN screen, because it's the same principle.

So imagine a new ability in the JJOS: You could assign very long samples, (longer than 128MB) to an (new type) of audio track and play them back....., but you won't be able to edit these samples or use them in any other way other than playback.

This new type of audio track could be called DFD (direct from disc) audio track.

There might be one problem tho: The preview function can probably play a sample only from the beginning, if this is so then a DFD Audio track using the same principle won't be possible.

again, your wording here is confusing... you went from asking if the MPC can do something to speaking hypothetically about something that the MPC can not currently do... i suppose you could put in a request for this feature, but i honestly don't think you're gonna see any results. wouldn't it just be easier to have the AUDIO THRU turned on and just have the MPC trigger the sample from an external source? i know you're trying to do it all internally, but i don't think the MPC can play audio from both the RAM and directly from disc at the same time... but like i said, if you REALLY wanna give it a go, just put in a request and see what they say.

crossings wrote:wouldn't it just be easier to have the AUDIO THRU turned on and just have the MPC trigger the sample from an external source?

ye, that might do the job

but i don't think the MPC can play audio from both the RAM and directly from disc at the same time.

this is a better wording of my question

crossings wrote:again, your wording here is confusing... you went from asking if the MPC can do something to speaking hypothetically about something that the MPC can not currently do... i suppose you could put in a request for this feature, but i honestly don't think you're gonna see any results. wouldn't it just be easier to have the AUDIO THRU turned on and just have the MPC trigger the sample from an external source? i know you're trying to do it all internally, but i don't think the MPC can play audio from both the RAM and directly from disc at the same time... but like i said, if you REALLY wanna give it a go, just put in a request and see what they say.

Out of curiosity. Can someone point me in the direction of an external source (non pc) that can play ultra long samples and hold like an hours worth in memory that can be triggered via mpc? For backing tracks for a band that the drummer can easily trigger...

golfdogz wrote:Out of curiosity. Can someone point me in the direction of an external source (non pc) that can play ultra long samples and hold like an hours worth in memory that can be triggered via mpc? For backing tracks for a band that the drummer can easily trigger...

another sampler? another MPC? PC would be the easiest option though...

in all honesty, if something's an hour long i'd hardly call it a sample... that's an album.

golfdogz wrote:Out of curiosity. Can someone point me in the direction of an external source (non pc) that can play ultra long samples and hold like an hours worth in memory that can be triggered via mpc? For backing tracks for a band that the drummer can easily trigger...

Roland SP-808 series. They played directly from zip disk and the 250 mb zips had over an hour of sampling/playback time.

If it's a feature request, it's not a new one. Check the archive. Yes, the idea has been submitted JJ before.

The probem as I understood it was the lack of a dedicated hardware HD controller. When you go into load/save the machine starts up a software routine to access the drives. When you exit those modes, it's gone. Probably not enough proc power to run both at once and even if there is I could see a whole host of nasty timing and stability issues coming into play.

People sometimes point out that some of Akai's (and others) earler devices were able to do this. I sometimes dork around with an S5000 sampler that has this feature -- but unlike the 1k that thing is a real piece of hernia-inducing hardware, not some all in one PDA soluton wraped in tinfoil with a bunch of cheap knobs & switches...

crossings wrote:in all honesty, if something's an hour long i'd hardly call it a sample... that's an album

nah its more like 3-5 minute "samples" with stereo sound fx etc that can play while also playing a click trick on a separate output for the drummer to keep in time with. but in total needs to be able to hold enough for an hour long set and if its all triggerable from the one spot then thats a bonus.

consuming wrote:Roland SP-808 series. They played directly from zip disk and the 250 mb zips had over an hour of sampling/playback time.

i forgot about those.. when they first came out i used to fantasize about owning one haha. ill look into it.

ps sorry for hijacking the thread - it just reminded me of an issue we are trying to work around - ill stop now

you could also look into the sp-404... it can use CF cards that are gigabytes in size and can be triggered via midi externally from the MPC easily... unlike the 808 they can even run on batteries and can be found used for rather cheap as well... that was what i had in mind when i'd mentioned "other samplers" but i didn't get into details...