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By Xandre Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:23 am
Hey, I was wondering if anyone has any experience with the SE-1 or SE-1X by Studio Electronics?

My question pertains to the MIDI implementation; I was wondering if it is possible to use multiple MIDI channels the way you can with a keyboard workstation like the Yamaha Motif series?

For example, I would like to have one MIDI channel be the bass tone, and a second as a lead tone, etc.

Now, I know the SE-1/X is monophonic, so I'm wondering if that means it can only transmit one sound at a time? I really would like to be able to transmit several sounds, having each one mapped to a different MIDI channel and all playing back at the same time with my MPC sequence.

If this is possible or not, let me know.
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By Lampdog Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:42 am
http://www.studioelectronics.com/assets/PDFs/SE-1X/SE-1X.pdf

Haven't seen u here in a long while, wuddup.

This says midi 1-16 for se1x (pg6), so I'd guess for se1x it's multitimbral meaning u could do exactly what u are describing. It doesn't specify for se1. ****, why do I keep typing "sex" by accident, lol. If the se1 is NOT multitimbral meaning u don't see options for assigning patches to 16 channels anywhere then ur outta luck. This sounds like microkorg peeps wishing for multiple midi channels.
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By Xandre Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:42 am
'Sup Lamp! I've been kicking around the forum a little (you musta missed me) but not posting as much as usual.

Thanks for the reply. I actually have the SE-1X, so as your sig says, "I WIN," but I would assume the original SE-1 has 16 MIDI channels as well, since the SE-1X version has it and it's a pretty standard feature for the money.

I just have to mess around with MIDI EDIT PAGE #2 and change the MIDI channels accordingly.

Thanks again, this cleared things up for me! AND nice to hear from one of the forum O.G.'s.
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By AntonPD Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:05 am
if you're trying to get crazy, try a combination of midi notes and midi changes to all three oscilators' pitches
in theory, that'll give you three voices (although their amplitudes/rhythm can't be controlled independently i'd guess)
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By Xandre Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:47 pm
Daym... so it's MONO-TIMBRAL, eh?

Seems like a huge limitation given the manufacturer's suggested retail price... which I didn't pay, I'm just sayin' though.

BTW, monophonic and mono-timbral are two different things. I knew the SE-1X was monophonic, just wasn't sure if it was mono-timbral as well. That sux.

I guess one would have to deal with the limitation or fork out $4,000 for a Studio Electronics Omega 8(!) for a true multi-timbral analog.

Or $3,000 for a Minimoog Voyager...
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By Xandre Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:57 pm
elektrik_muz wrote:Lotsa people wanting multitimbral monosynths latley.


They better hop on that sixteen wheel drive unicycle to get down to the store and buy some!


Are there any multi-timbral monosyths? Got any examples you'd care to share?
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By Lampdog Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:59 pm
What I think EM meant was a lot of different people have been posting lately, just like you, wanting to know how to turn on multitimbral functions on their mono-synths lately. When monosynths just don't have the chops to do that.
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By Xandre Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:24 pm
Lampdog wrote:What I think EM meant was a lot of different people have been posting lately, just like you, wanting to know how to turn on multitimbral functions on their mono-synths lately. When monosynths just don't have the chops to do that.


Word, thanks for the clarification.

QUESTION: How do I layer multiple sounds from a monophonic, monotimbral synth like the SE-1X?


*Also, the Minimoog Voyager is monotimbral. Just want to correct my earlier post.
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By Lampdog Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:51 pm
Me, if I wanted to do it would (and this might suck) be raw audio recorded into a separate daw track for each pass of audio. I can't think of any other way at the moment. And I might actually be doing this IF and WHEN I end up with a minibrute.
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By elektrik_muz Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:21 am
Xandre wrote:Daym... so it's MONO-TIMBRAL, eh?

Seems like a huge limitation given the manufacturer's suggested retail price... which I didn't pay, I'm just sayin' though.


That's just the way it is. Real, quality analog hardware costs more money -- especially when the manufacturer has added precision digitall control and/or midi. That hardware has to be multiplied to build polyphonics so the price gets multiplied along with it.

People who buy that stuff are paying for sound quality first, not voice count.

BTW monophonic means one voice, doesn't matter if you try to divide it by voices within a channel or voices across channels, there's only one.