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By sally Thu May 31, 2012 8:41 am
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By m:t:c Thu May 31, 2012 10:53 am
did that dbeat ever actually materialize? price tag was huge when it was announced. For that you could build a proper home studio with a proper computer, controllers, outboard gear, current gen mpc etc.
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By Funkydrops Thu May 31, 2012 11:34 am
m:t:c wrote:did that dbeat ever actually materialize? price tag was huge when it was announced. For that you could build a proper home studio with a proper computer, controllers, outboard gear, current gen mpc etc.


Openlab has failed BUT shops still got stock units if you scratch (ti-fi-ti-taf) the surface:

http://www.keymusic.com/en/product/Open ... -With-Case

That's in Europe, so I guess US market would be even better...

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Ren is still vapor... when it will condense in a marketed product there will be enough evidence to judge.

DBeat PRO comes fully equipped in daw/vsts/sounds, integrates all you can need into a self-contained tool and goes the opposite route Ren does.

Having a stand-alone MPC means also having access to an external daw to record in, let it be an hardware recorder or a pc/mac rig.

Considering the Ren, the pc/mac rig is needed to basically turn on the MPC, and you should add that price to the cost of the daw and commercial vsts one planes to use.

It also looks like the DBeat pro is a very clever and streamlined machine, where the integration of the hardware with a custom install of the OS allows for a very productive workflow: one should assure himself to tune OS/DAW properly to match the same integration with a Ren.

On the other side putting that much effort in tuning your studio pc/mac, your daw, accurately patching it :-) will pay you big time even in a stand-alone MPC+DAW context.

What I mean is that Ren/Maschine/Spark and all of that gimmik looks to me like offering a short-cut to a better integrated studio. Not that the effort is worth any penny asked but it surely appeal those who actually need a short-cut to foster their productivity as those who believe to need it.

And yes Sally, for those looking for a all in one scenario, DBeat solution could be a better choice. Not for those already having enough I/O, pads, daw, and fxs to go. For those gear-addicted **** is not a good choice. No other tool is good as no more drug is good to a drug-addict.
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By Funkydrops Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:30 pm
acronym wrote:2000euro for that Dlab, what a joke.



sure?

Dedicated cpu, storage, custom OS + (multi)touchscreen, control surface +pads+transport control, DAW, full of sounds/vsts, 24bit Audiocard for 2000EUR and it's a joke.

Sure.

They could hook you with a blow-jobbing **** for free, now THAT would be A deal...
By zippertafari Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:13 pm
Im not sure what fell over here...quality of materials, poor marketing, poor return on investment.
But I thought it was a very good idea. Its just the lack of support which prevented me from getting one and instead investing in a laptop for Ableton.
I can take a hit on an ASR that may blow up one day without me being able to get it repaired. But Im not spending 2 grand on an Open Labs box for it to do the same thing.
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By mr_debauch Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:53 pm
zippertafari wrote:Im not sure what fell over here...quality of materials, poor marketing, poor return on investment.


i think there was a thread around here which suggested why.. I think the owner of the company did some shit that got him into legal trouble or something. Dont quote me on that though...
By Fess Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:59 pm
Ill-Green wrote:OL belly'd up but their machines will be sought-after rarities in the future.



Wrong, OL is alive and well.
By acronym Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:36 pm
Funkydrops wrote:
acronym wrote:2000euro for that Dlab, what a joke.



sure?

Dedicated cpu, storage, custom OS + (multi)touchscreen, control surface +pads+transport control, DAW, full of sounds/vsts, 24bit Audiocard for 2000EUR and it's a joke.

Sure.

They could hook you with a blow-jobbing **** for free, now THAT would be A deal...



For me it is, even with a dedicated core this versus an i5 or i7 in any laptop would blow it away.

Storage isn't a big deal, its hardly rocket science to replace one and plus SSD is incredibly better.

Custom OS/Touchscreen - Ok you got me there but then its simply a reskinned SDK of Windows XP they're using. However, you're still looking at a monitor at the end of the day it just has better tactile control than a mouse

Sounds/VST - rather buy my own to be honest.

Audiocard - Again buy my own

So if I had money to burn then probably I be interested, it looks incredible I have to admit but then servicing it would be a nightmare if certain parts need fixing.