how to use swing

Hi...I'm new...and I've been trying to get my swing settings figured out...but they're always a little off...does anyone know how I'd get them like this:

http://www.tunes.co.uk/tunes/ram/hear_sugar01.ram

thanks a lot

Swing of what....What instrument u reffering to? I would guess the tambs
(prob between 58 & 65 as a ruff guess)

To be fair tho, swing settings etc come part and parcle with good drum programming - I.e velocity edits, ghost hits

experiment

yup program ur drums as usual then, mess around with the swing thats the only way to understand how it will effect the feel of the drums.

but its definately a feature that will stop ur drums sounding stiff, so its worth taking the time to play with it.

i dunno about u guys but those drums sounded stiff as hell on the link...

thief wrote:Hi...I'm new...and I've been trying to get my swing settings figured out...but they're always a little off...does anyone know how I'd get them like this:

http://www.tunes.co.uk/tunes/ram/hear_sugar01.ram

thanks a lot

, is this considered swing?

jus mess with your swing settings till you get it how you want

or jus do it manually when you record your pattern

that is programmed like old 80's electro.
there is pretty much no swing on it.

what is the problem?

just program bi**hes!

the changeup around 2:40 is kinda cool.

In the new scratch magazine Scott Storch talks about the swing feature a little bit. For somebody that dont understand it i dont think what he saids will help but for those who do i think it can clear up the picture a little bit!

well in order to get a swing FEEL you also have to apply various tempo changes

I dunno 'bout you guys,

but I use the swing mostly to adapt my snare and melodies to the speed of the beat.

Mostly the swing function gives me that nice laid back feeling on the snare.

let's say you have a beat at 106 bpm.

If you would "hard-quantize" thru the whole song, you would get some kind of "marching" beat.

but when you apply the swing - your snare will always come a "tiny" little bit after the 2&4 - which gives it a nice groove.

the faster the bpm - the more "swing".

and the effect of swing also differs when you apply let's say 16/58% or 32/58%.

just try and experiment - it's all fun.

okay swing is a real simple concept. its starts at 50% and that means any note that is recorded by the sequncer will move it to whatever timing correction note u have, the nearest one, lets say 1/16 notes, 50% means its dead on. now the more u go up the more its moving it off the 1/16th notes and sliding them. this is to make it so that the notes arent dead on and it gives it a syncopated, offbeat, feel.

say its like this

this is in 8th notes

1 e 2 e 3 e 4 e

now thats with 50 swing. the mpc will slide what u are playing to thouse notes dead on

now with say 75 swing it would be something like this

1 - e - 2 - e - 3 - e - 4 - e
the dashes are where the notes are falling now. cause they have been moved half way, 75 from the timing note. say with a 65 swing it would be half of that. so it would look like
1- e- 2- e- 3- e- 4- they are slide closer.

makin it like this is the mpcs way off emulating human drum performances cause a real drummer is not on the 1 2 3 4, he has "swing" which makes it offbeat to make it sound more human and rhythmic instead of the 4 on the floor stiffness of straight quantized drums.

swing can be used on anything from chops to drums to bass, iif ur shit sounds stiff and robotic try a little swing to make it seem more real

add variation of many types to your "hard"or slightly quantized drum hits throughout one beat.for example try, playing the kick at various volumes for groovin' effect.
with drums i like the less is more approach w/ hiphop beats.

Good hit Bing

Swing is a combo of many things. I use to use swing on my drums with the full level light on and my drums didnt sound good. Now i have got good at using it with it off and i see the true power of it. Everyday i come up with new ways of using it or i just keep pushing the limits. I use to just put swing on all the instruments of the same percentage now i get a lot of my drums sounds different numbers. Now im going even farther and im changing the swing for each bar on a instrument or single sound. It might start off at 53, then the next bar go to 65 then back to 54 and then maybe 60. I first started using swing i use to not like it cause i couldnt head the difference or it didnt sound right but once i turn off the full level light and started adding it, i notice swing wasnt something you have to hear but more feel. Everyday i get deeper into it cause its all becoming more fun.

young_keyz wrote:In the new scratch magazine Scott Storch talks about the swing feature a little bit. For somebody that dont understand it i dont think what he saids will help but for those who do i think it can clear up the picture a little bit!

i caught that