MPC1000/2500 X-Large LCD w/modified JJOS

If you check the videos NDC has moved from being a property of the sample to a property of the program. NDC slicing can be done from PGM mode too. You'll be able to work in a similar way with chops but it won't be cross OS compatible.

Nym wrote:

it'd be nice to know what kind of additional strain (if any) this screen is putting on the machine.

this is somewhat of a miscommunication. CPU strain is apparently not a big issue here - i have acquired a translator to assist with future difficult communications.

Sounds like a wise move at this stage.

I've just got a niggling doubt in my mind that this next phase of the paid OS will end up being a 2 year merry-go-round, with old features gradually trickling back into the OS.

Coz wrote:
I've just got a niggling doubt in my mind that this next phase of the paid OS will end up being a 2 year merry-go-round, with old features gradually trickling back into the OS.

I have that concern too. But I'm fine with it for two reasons:
1. you can still load up OS2XL
2. by starting over, JJ is working with a clean codebase. prolly doesn't mean much to non-techy types, but its important nonetheless, because it will be easier for JJ to add features and kill bugs (not easy... but certainly easier).

And when we come out at the end of the ride, we're pretty much guaranteed to have an even better product than what OS2XL is...

**** wrote:

Nym wrote:record mode has its own realtime waveform

what´s the advantage of this?

Wow...

mp3 wrote:

konc3pt wrote:Im bascially throwing $150 out the window and that thought is not sitting well with me.

Nah man, you paid $150 for all the work you did with the product.

And not only that, you supported the developer of a product you like, which enabled him to not only maintain and improve that particular product, but also to make new products that you would probably like...

EXACTLY.

mp3 wrote:And when we come out at the end of the ride, we're pretty much guaranteed to have an even better product than what OS2XL is...

I'm not so sure about that, but it's cool that people are being optimistic.

I think what we were all hoping for was a direct port of XL that was formatted for the big screen, but JJ has taken the OS right back to square one. That seems like a huge gamble to me, especially as the foundations of the original code would have been compiled by a team of programmers. Now it really is JJ all on his own.

Fingers crossed for everyone who's into this new direction.

At first, I wasn't really thinking about getting the big screen. Just didn't really see the need, even though I loved that it was being done. Knowing that JJ is more or less starting from scratch really put the hook in me. I would really love to help shape this sucker... Though I think it'll be damn tough to beat what JJ has already done. Deffinately got me thinking.

Coz wrote:I think what we were all hoping for was a direct port of XL that was formatted for the big screen,

Nope, speak for yourself.

This change was not unexpected by the vets on here and has been a long time in the making. A reoccuring problem that has plagued development of this system from the very begining is that JJ was working on top of a basic software spec that Akai concocted to serve their own short-sighted marketing exec dictated goals first. Users?. The needs of users were only taken into account by Akai when it came to fabricating deceptive ad copy ("Hey kids! It's the "Laptop MPC" you keep asking us for!).

I submit the reason OS2xl isn't going to go any futher is because it can't.

short-sighted marketing exec dictated goals first

hence why MPC1000 os 1.07 (i think that's where it stopped) was so chronically limited, despite the potential of the hardware.

i mean props for getting the horse out of the gate, i guess, but damn. i'm really curious to know what was happening behind the scenes there.

elektrik_muz wrote:Nope, speak for yourself.

I always speak for myself, but I can say with some certainty that the "vets" aren't exactly jumping for joy at the prospect of a gimped OS on a big screen. I'm glad it appeals to you though.

So far I've only seen the first vid. And I for one am very excited and optimistic about where this will go. I have a hunch it will take time but I'm down to be along for the ride... And as it stands the XL version in it's current state has me very happy. And knowing that the screen is backwards compatible to that leaves me little reason not to forge forward and be onboard with the new O.S.
NDC in GPE mode is a sample beat makers wet dream! I will be going Ham...

Now to watch vid 2!

Coz wrote:
I think what we were all hoping for was a direct port of XL that was formatted for the big screen

I was hoping this too, like 1k with os2xl for the road and 2k5 with big screen and comfort for the homestudio.

But on the long run, it may be a better move to have a potential compatibility between OS128XL and OS3. So as usual let's wait and see.

Coz wrote:I always speak for myself, but I can say with some certainty that the "vets" aren't exactly jumping for joy at the prospect of a gimped OS on a big screen. I'm glad it appeals to you though.

Nope, that's incorrect, as that is not the prospect I am "jumping for joy" over.

I am "jumping for joy" over the prospect of the longstanding limitations of the Akai software spec being removed so that the OS can procede to develop forward, because as it was, it could not. If you want os2xl, use it. I have been through literally every incarnation of JJ os since before they even called it that, and the development is never complete with the first releases of a new OS version. It makes sense the features would be rolled back even futher in this case, considering they have finnaly started over from scratch as they had been promising to do for years.

elektrik_muz wrote:I am "jumping for joy" over the prospect of the longstanding limitations of the Akai software spec being removed so that the OS can procede to develop forward, because as it was, it could not.

The software spec is reliant on the underlying hardware spec. There's no circumnavigating this. If you believe that a complete rewrite of the OS will give you more power, then that's cool if it pans out that way. I'm not buying into the $300 daydream at this point though.

nym, can you please do a video where you crossfade a loop with the xl screen?

where you have to mess with the release in the program mode afterwards to have it fade out subtly. originally i thought that they got rid of adsr all together so you couldent do this anymore, but it seems that they still have "attack" and "Release" modes.

am i correct? you dont even have to do a video for it, but it would be awesome if you could confirm it for me.

thanks.