Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By Dr.Foo Thu Jun 26, 2003 12:11 am
official wrote:
Dr.Foo wrote:dont buy anything else, why do you need a s950? the triton's sampler is mustard.


The s950 is a 12-bit sampler, that's what makes the "crunchy" sound, you can't get that out of any modern 16-bit boxes outside of effects and they don't sound the same, I've tried it. You can run the 2000 and the s950 together, sample on both, sequence on the MP, if they both have 8-outs you have to use a mixing board or else the outs are useless...cheapest thing is to get a regular 3-channel DJ mixer, mix the stereo outs from all three to the mixer, then the out from the mixer to your recorder, anything past that is $$. Get a computer, str8 to CD will keep on sounding like ****....


man I am so sick of these "crunchy" drums debate. THE MPC 2000XL gives out what you put in. SIMPLE AS THAT. THAT is what it does BEST. You are guaranteed that what you put in, it comes out as. most samplers cannot say this.

THe s950 is a 12 bit 40khz max sampler, ok, simply resample to 12 bit and there you go. THe sample rate of the mpc is 44.1, ok, simply load the 16 bit 44.1 sample into the pc, resample to 12 bit whatever resolution, then save it. Open it again and resample this sample to 16 bit 44.1, they will sound the SAME.
basically, you are removing samples by going to the 12 bt 40khz from a 16bit 44.1 (the 40, 44.1 basically is the number of slices the sampler takes from a sound source, the higher the number the more slices it takes to replicate the original, so 44.1 = 44,100 slices, 40 = 40,000 slices etc.)
this creates the "crunch" then by going back to 16 bit 44.1 from the orginal file (the 12 bit 40khz, s950 esque one) you are just making it 44.1 16 bit for easy use in the MPC 2000XL.

this will create the same sound to drums the s950 does, and faster considering load time and all.

To say that you can't get the s950 sound out of the MPC 2000 is not true, its a lie, plain and simple. I can play you drum sounds from the s950 and ones I've made the way I described above and you cant tell the difference. Anyone who says otherwise is full of it, or they have the ears of a cat.

oh, if you dont wanna go pc, get a dps 24, for 2 grand, pete rock uses that and an mpc only to make all his beats.

I prefer to have a pc for messing with sounds, as I described above. BAsically, for the cost of the s950, you can get an older p3 (which I what I run on w/ zero problems so far) and do all the s950 can and more.

plus older software programs (recycle 1.7, soundforge 5.0, etc.)

are mad cheap now that they got other stuff thats new

read the pro-tools debate on here for more on that.
pz
By rickreed Thu Jun 26, 2003 4:45 am
When you say you can go from MPC PC to just MPC, what specifically are you talking about? I have never played with the MPC4000 before or experienced it in real life. When you say self-contained studio, do you mean that you do not need a DAW or anything like that? I am not knowing anything about this machine but I was the one that wants to learn about multi-track recording....will this machine allow me to skip all of that for great sounding tracks?

P.S. I just have an MPC 200xl, TRITON, and a CD recorder...trying to get a better quality of sound out this stuff...

Thanks
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By Dr.Foo Fri Jun 27, 2003 9:37 pm
I think dammix owns one, so he is prolly the best resource but yeah as far as I know its a studio in a box.
it has a full fledged sampler, and a mixer, and a ton of effects, mad midi i/o and basically all you need to do a track is....samples.

plus it has a cd burner in that bad boy and a built in HD. phat.