Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
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By Lampdog Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:56 pm
Your right, I just checked pg 192 of the 2kxl manual.

When 1x16mb is installed the 2mb is added equaling 18mb.

When 2x16mb is installed the 2mb is ignored.

When 1x32mb is installed the 2mb is ignored.

Sorry 'bout that.

I have 32mb in my 2kxl.
By musiccankill Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:00 pm
The sequencer ram doesnt come from the 2megs of sample ram because i have removed it and i am still able to load sequences without any problem at all!
If i knew which of the other 2 16mbit (2mb) rams onboard is the sequencer ram i would have already swapped it with the sample one to see what will change!
No prob Lampdog , we now know for sure that its ignored but thats in the user level (what the user sees)..The machine may need this ram installed even if it has 32 megs installed though....
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By mr_debauch Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:03 pm
I am highly looking forward to the end result once you got there... so please post up what ever you try and the result.
By musiccankill Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:27 pm
I will update this post as i will find anything..!
I will now try to change place to the rams ( i will pick one of the two and with some luck i will pick up the correct!!)
By musiccankill Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:11 pm
I just killed it trying to remove the second ram..!
They dont need too much heat so the ram is now dead (resoldered it and does nothing...)
I will have to get 2 new ram chips now...
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By Lampdog Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:32 pm
musiccankill wrote:I just killed it

Oh damn.

RI mPc :(
By musiccankill Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:42 pm
No no!! Its alive!!
Just done an "electric shock xD" and revived it!!
It was a pin of the ram on the air which you cant see it with the eye so i soldered it and its back to life!
Gonna check now for disconnecting pins on the dsp chip cause its seems to be possible after that experience with the ram..!
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By Lampdog Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:48 pm
So your telling me musiccantkill.

jk.

Hopefully something good can come outta this.
By musiccankill Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:31 pm
Maybe!!!
To procceed i need one ram chip to replace the sound one which i believe is faulty...
My theory of operation is that the big custom dsp chip, at startup (power on) talks to the internal ram chip to see if there is proper connection with the ram bus and then searches for simms...
But if it cannot talk to the first ram chip (the 2mb internal one) it believes that there is a problem and does not procceed to check for other ram in the simm sockets...
Maybe it uses the internal memory as a buffer or something too as the 3 memories (2 simms and 2mb internal) share the same bus and same pins on the custom dsp cpu...
There where 2 pins desoldered on the dsp on mine and i soldered them back but it doesnt seems to have changed anything (as the lines are empty)....
Maybe i am wrong with my theory so if someone has got the sound ram chip off the motherboard please tell us here what is going on the machine after that..!
It is more possible to find out by myself though cause i dont think anyone with a working machine would have tried to remove the internal ram , theres no point in doing that..!
One thing i have already done is disconecting the light from the screen so it doesnt get warm and begin to have lines...
I placed a switch so i can manually turn on the light when i cant read the screen..!
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By Lampdog Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:08 am
Maybe it was a reflow and cleaning problem to begin with?
By musiccankill Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:29 am
Had tried reflow and cleaning but didn't worked..!
I still found that the internal ram doesnt work...
If i remove the 32mb simm the ram says 65388kb free and 0 installed...
So if i can find this ram chip i will replace it...
It works now perfect though..!
I don't remember the temperatures cause i had the old one a whole winter and not summer ...
Can you please tell me if the ram in yours become too hot after 20-30 mins of use?
thanks!
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By Lampdog Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:31 am
I've had my 2kxlse2 (orange) since they came out and never had a problem, I don't use it a much now but it's still works fine, a freeze every few months but reboot fixes that (the dreaded screen full of code -untrapped error-).
By musiccankill Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:39 am
I found why it became hot!!
I had installed 1x16 mb and 1x32 (didn't knew that it was 32 megs as it was sent with the faulty mpc to me...
After i removed the 32 megs no more freezes and not so hot as before...
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By Lampdog Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:17 pm
Should be 1 x 32mb or 2 x 16mb sticks.

You had a ram misconfiguration?!


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