Feature Suggestions: MPC Renaissance

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Re: Feature Suggestions: MPC Renaissance

By mr_debauch Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:44 am
strugglebuggiemusic wrote:
mr_debauch wrote:
strugglebuggiemusic wrote:
It has 2 USB A ports, and ONE USB B port... :nod:



:roll:

what ever that means...


but get a USB hub... if you are having trouble with the lack of usb ports.


^^^
:fku:

You ever notice that your USB cable has TWO different shaped ends? One is USB in,
and the other is OUT...

It would help if people could refrain from stating the obvious, like: "LET THEM EAT CAKE"


ahh okay... so... you have a device that requires the cable to be plugged in backwards?
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Re: Feature Suggestions: MPC Renaissance

By Lampdog Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:56 am
mr_debauch wrote:what ever that means...


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4k and triton extreme has both a and b

B is usually for transferring data to devices, printer, scanner, mpc data transfer..
A is usually for smaller peripherals, thumbs, kybds, external drives..

Re: Feature Suggestions: MPC Renaissance

By Luigi Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:15 am
It would be cool if u could connect hardware synths that got usb connections to the Rens usb connections. and controll them with the Ren with usb, not midi.


Ive said it before. But it would be really great to have presets for the qlinks. Say I have a synth that i programed 32 of the qlinks . and wanna do a new beat. do I have to program 32 qlinks again to use same synth on a different beat?


Another awsome thing would be MIDI SYS implementation. being able to save hardware synth presets, and such, in the RENs software. and loading them automaticly with each project.
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Re: Feature Suggestions: MPC Renaissance

By JAH Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:35 am
Luigi wrote:It would be cool if u could connect hardware synths that got usb connections to the Rens usb connections. and controll them with the Ren with usb, not midi.


Ive said it before. But it would be really great to have presets for the qlinks. Say I have a synth that i programed 32 of the qlinks . and wanna do a new beat. do I have to program 32 qlinks again to use same synth on a different beat?


Another awsome thing would be MIDI SYS implementation. being able to save hardware synth presets, and such, in the RENs software. and loading them automaticly with each project.


All great ideas!

1. Controlling synths over USB is possible using Maschine or any software product. The Ren should perform the same way. But I would be curious to see what performs better....the Ren's MIDI Outs or connecting a synth directly to the Ren's USB hub.

2. Saving Qlink presets would be nice. I would like to be able to not only program the Qlinks but also name the params they control. Having a name is much more user friendly that displaying a MIDI CC number.

3. In addition to this, I am still waiting on an MPC that can't import patch scripts. Selecting hardware synth presets by name is much more user friendly than using Program numbers.

Re: Feature Suggestions: MPC Renaissance

By r233 Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:29 am
mr_debauch wrote:
strugglebuggiemusic wrote:
It has 2 USB A ports, and ONE USB B port... :nod:



:roll:

what ever that means...

but get a USB hub... if you are having trouble with the lack of usb ports.


I ment more usb A ports. It would just make things easier if the Ren would work as a proper usb hub as well. At least for me.

I too think the coloring is crazy. Basic black like the 2500 would look better.

Re: Feature Suggestions: MPC Renaissance

By strugglebuggiemusic Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:16 am
r233 wrote:
mr_debauch wrote:
strugglebuggiemusic wrote:
It has 2 USB A ports, and ONE USB B port... :nod:



:roll:

what ever that means...

but get a USB hub... if you are having trouble with the lack of usb ports.


I ment more usb A ports. It would just make things easier if the Ren would work as a proper usb hub as well. At least for me.

I too think the coloring is crazy. Basic black like the 2500 would look better.


Im not 2 crazy about the color, wanna BLACK one also...oh well, maybe by XMAS...
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Re: Feature Suggestions: MPC Renaissance

By JAH Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:47 pm
**** wrote:24 bit/96 kHz?

that´s some medieval shyt right there!!

And moyphee agrees that the Ren's hardware not being able to record at 192kHz is unacceptable.

So....new feature suggestion for AD/DA converters to record 192kHz at 24 bit.
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Re: Feature Suggestions: MPC Renaissance

By mr_debauch Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:08 pm
Lampdog wrote:B is usually for transferring data to devices, printer, scanner, mpc data transfer..
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yeah that part i know .. it's the one likely used to connect the ren to the computer... right? but what would the use of having more of those be?
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Re: Feature Suggestions: MPC Renaissance

By DJ Hellfire Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:12 pm
JAH wrote:
**** wrote:24 bit/96 kHz?

that´s some medieval shyt right there!!

And moyphee agrees that the Ren's hardware not being able to record at 192kHz is unacceptable.

So....new feature suggestion for AD/DA converters to record 192kHz at 24 bit.



Why the **** would anyone want to sample at 192kHz? That's such a **** waste of hard drive space, and the average human being won't even be able to hear the difference anyway. Not to mention that it get's dithered all the way down to 44kHz for consumerism anyway. I've never recorded audio in Pro Tools any higher than 48kHz and I record peoples albums. And there are some real professionals in the industry actually making a living off of audio that record at 16/44. So I'll be damned if I'm going to waste time chopping samples and one shots at 192kHz. Not to mention it puts an unnecessary amount of excess strain on your computer. That's just asinine and another example of a typical bedroom beatmaker thinking higher numbers are better! Then complain that the beats don't sound dirty enough! :lol: :roll:
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Re: Feature Suggestions: MPC Renaissance

By JAH Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:28 pm
DJ Hellfire wrote:Why the **** would anyone want to sample at 192kHz?

The only thing I can think of is software reports lower latency when using higher sample rates. I personnaly never use anything higher than 48kHz.
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Re: Feature Suggestions: MPC Renaissance

By DJ Hellfire Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:32 pm
JAH wrote:
DJ Hellfire wrote:Why the **** would anyone want to sample at 192kHz?

The only thing I can think of is software reports lower latency when using higher sample rates.


Yeah, a whole millisecond from 44K to 192K is gonna make such a huge difference! :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Gaining a damn millisecond of latency is not worth choking the shit out of your computer faster!
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Re: Feature Suggestions: MPC Renaissance

By IMAKEMADBEATS Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:36 pm
DJ Hellfire wrote:
JAH wrote:
**** wrote:24 bit/96 kHz?

that´s some medieval shyt right there!!

And moyphee agrees that the Ren's hardware not being able to record at 192kHz is unacceptable.

So....new feature suggestion for AD/DA converters to record 192kHz at 24 bit.



Why the **** would anyone want to sample at 192kHz? That's such a **** waste of hard drive space, and the average human being won't even be able to hear the difference anyway. Not to mention that it get's dithered all the way down to 44kHz for consumerism anyway. I've never recorded audio in Pro Tools any higher than 48kHz and I record peoples albums. And there are some real professionals in the industry actually making a living off of audio that record at 16/44. So I'll be damned if I'm going to waste time chopping samples and one shots at 192kHz. Not to mention it puts an unnecessary amount of excess strain on your computer. That's just asinine and another example of a typical bedroom beatmaker thinking higher numbers are better! Then
complain that the beats don't sound dirty enough! :lol: :roll:



I was a recording/mixing engineer at Quad studios in Times Square for 4 years. In all of that time, I can only recall recording at 192 once. We were recording a trumpet section. Honestly no one could tell the difference, because the difference often shows up in not just the recording, but the manipulation of the recording. No NORMAL manipulation of a 192 will show any extra "greatness"....
98% of the time, its unnecessary.
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Re: Feature Suggestions: MPC Renaissance

By IMAKEMADBEATS Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:56 pm
I noticed something a couple of days ago. There are no buttons/pads for alphabets...? I'm assuming that's because people would prefer to easily use their computer keyboard.

That's fine with me. On the 2000xl I'd just gotten so used to the letter'd pads. I was actually proud of how fast I was on them. :smoker:
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Re: Feature Suggestions: MPC Renaissance

By Lampdog Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:45 pm
mr_debauch wrote:
Lampdog wrote:
B is usually for transferring data to devices, printer, scanner, mpc data transfer..


yeah that part i know .. it's the one likely used to connect the ren to the computer... right? but what would the use of having more of those be?

If I had a Ren, no use at all. My desktop has 10 USB-A ports and I wouldn't be traveling with the Ren, so, I'm good.

Re: Feature Suggestions: MPC Renaissance

By moyphee Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:51 pm
JAH wrote:
**** wrote:24 bit/96 kHz?

that´s some medieval shyt right there!!

And moyphee agrees that the Ren's hardware not being able to record at 192kHz is unacceptable.

So....new feature suggestion for AD/DA converters to record 192kHz at 24 bit.


Whoa Jah, don't twist my statement. I don't believe comparing the Ren to a bunch Romplers is a equal comparison as you laid out and I think comparing the Ren to an interface made more sense.
At no time can you point to a statement of me endorsing recording or sampling at 192.
Don't go pulling statements out of your ass to further your crusade.

Read the statement
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