Feature Suggestions: MPC Renaissance

I think the 3K / 60 sound stuff is a gimmick. It may work just as they describe, I'm not saying its a load of bunk. I'm just saying I doubt in 2012 that it gives anyone an edge or benefit when it comes to making music. Hip Hop today does not subscribe to one formula or magic sound. Good mixes, are good mixes...

So as a justification for the price of $1300 in my opinion, it is not. ....and certainly not being accompanied by a $250 EIE Pro interface (not saying that is what it is), I hope Akai is not going to be that disrespectful to its following. Hey an EIE+, or Super EIE with dope converters who's quality surpasses the current model, I'm fine with that. I'm just saying that there is a $700 price gap and I'm not sure I know why yet. A $400 gap would be easier to drool over.

I still think REN will be a super dope system, and everyone will love it, and I would like to have one, but I'd probably just get a Studio and a MicroBook II.

Elohimfetus wrote: I'm just saying that there is a $700 price gap and I'm not sure I know why yet. A $400 gap would be easier to drool over.

Once you hold the Ren and Studio in your hands, you will immediately feel why there is such a price gap. The Ren is slightly larger than the MPC 2500 by length/width but has a lower profile. The weight of the Ren comes in at 10.5 lbs (Studio less than 2 lbs)...which is slightly less than the MPC 2500/2000 which are just under 14 lbs. Basically, the Ren is not something you want to put in a back pack and travel with.

Elohimfetus wrote:
So as a justification for the price of $1300 in my opinion, it is not. ....and certainly not being accompanied by a $250 EIE Pro interface (not saying that is what it is)....

Akai makes entry level interfaces and nothing above that. That said, it would be a stretch to expect much more than the quality of the best product they have in that area- the EIE Pro. That's not to say the results aren't going to be acceptable but there's no pro level interface in that controller. That's simply not what Numark/AKAI builds.
Considering added weight a bonus in any regard makes no sense. Weight is not an indication of quality , function, ,stability, or even durability. The last flagship model from AKAI was over 18lbs.

JAH wrote:

Elohimfetus wrote: I'm just saying that there is a $700 price gap and I'm not sure I know why yet. A $400 gap would be easier to drool over.

Once you hold the Ren and Studio in your hands, you will immediately feel why there is such a price gap. The Ren is slightly larger than the MPC 2500 by length/width but has a lower profile. The weight of the Ren comes in at 10.5 lbs (Studio less than 2 lbs)...which is slightly less than the MPC 2500/2000 which are just under 14 lbs. Basically, the Ren is not something you want to put in a back pack and travel with.

Jah - do both the REN and the Studio use the super fast midi? I would think that feature is partially hardware driven (since pads trigger the circuit board), so I was wondering since the encasings are different was the quality and feel of this feature equally applied in both.

Jah - having worked with the Studio does it feel like it is worth $600. You pointed out above how light it was. This is no doubt for portability, but does it take away from the stability of the box? Are you knocking out beats comfortably or are you feeling cramped when using the Studio? How is the button lay out? and the logistics for using the 4 buttons on the side? Does it flow?

We have forum members that have seen the MPC Studio...I am not one of them. I can only assume that the Studio will have the same MIDI driver as the Ren...but of course I am not sure.

But if I were buying the Studio, I would go for an RME audio/MIDI interface and use their drivers.

moyphee wrote:Considering added weight a bonus in any regard makes no sense. Weight is not an indication of quality , function, ,stability, or even durability. The last flagship model from AKAI was over 18lbs.

The Ren is over 10 lbs as it is not simply a plastic controller. It has a solid, very durable build like most MPCs that came before it. Every forum member that has touched the Ren agrees. Check out the Namm videos where actual forum members seen and touched the Ren.....

Elohimfetus wrote:I think the 3K / 60 sound stuff is a gimmick. It may work just as they describe, I'm not saying its a load of bunk. I'm just saying I doubt in 2012 that it gives anyone an edge or benefit when it comes to making music. Hip Hop today does not subscribe to one formula or magic sound. Good mixes, are good mixes...

So as a justification for the price of $1300 in my opinion, it is not. ....and certainly not being accompanied by a $250 EIE Pro interface (not saying that is what it is), I hope Akai is not going to be that disrespectful to its following. Hey an EIE+, or Super EIE with dope converters who's quality surpasses the current model, I'm fine with that. I'm just saying that there is a $700 price gap and I'm not sure I know why yet. A $400 gap would be easier to drool over.

I still think REN will be a super dope system, and everyone will love it, and I would like to have one, but I'd probably just get a Studio and a MicroBook II.

I think all vintage mode is, is glorified distortion and compressor plug in presets.

MPCWeapon1 wrote:I think all vintage mode is, is glorified distortion and compressor plug in presets.

What ever it is....the bottom line is if it actually sounds like the MPCs it is trying to emulate.

now that the ren is shipping to pre orders (studio coming soon) and the US next week, we can use this thread the right way.

Please try and stay on topic

A good start would be cleaning this thread up or locking it and allow the other one that was just closed.

Or perhaps have a feature request and bug report sub forum...

Jah speaks the truth

I respectfully request this one to be locked since it would be too much work to clean up. We need a focused thread for developers to take a look at not 17 pages of unrelated stuff.

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without that all the other things wont even get to be used by most logic users.....

An adjustable Nudge feature would be cool for midi data. For example if I want to shit a whole midi region forward or back by a set # of ticks, note value etc.