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By Philly Stress Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:47 am
I apologize if this is the wrong Forum but, I've been Considering attending Audio Engineering School,just the thing is Engineering School Cost WAY TO MUCH!!

Full Sail= $40,000 (Back in 2002!)
(In Orlando, Florida)

Omega Recording School= $18,000 (That's Just 4 Base Courses!)
(In Rockville,MD)


Some of the People I've Talked to who Have went to Some of these Schools
(Full Sail in particular) Said that the Schools were not as"Hands on" as they had hoped.Plus, I've tried doing the intern thing but just I can't Work for free! (I need a PAYING job!) I been Thinking about joining the AES and/or Namm and Trying to Network from there,but I ain't much of a people person so I don't Know How Sucessful I'll Be at networking?? Anybody out there got any Ideas??
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By JonLocsback Thu Nov 04, 2004 6:35 am
It just comes down to how much you want it. You say you need a paying job to do the intern thing, you can make it work if you want it that bad.

By MAD T Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:15 pm
$40k for education in a career that has a shrinking size. Home studios are seriously making an impact on full pro studios seeing decreasing buisiness. For $40k you could get a graduate degree from Stanford and be makin bank right out of school. I imagin if you go through the audio engineering classes you start out with a shit paying job at the bottom....that's how it works....right?
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By Smoove03 Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:26 pm
Philly Stress wrote:Omega Recording School= $18,000 (That's Just 4 Base Courses!)
(In Rockville,MD)



yea i have a brochure from them. they dont even offer financial aid!
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By j.m Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:00 pm
Full Sail= $40,000 (Back in 2002!)
(In Orlando, Florida)

Omega Recording School= $18,000 (That's Just 4 Base Courses!)
(In Rockville,MD)



for that much money - you could hire a top class engineer and buy studio time, and it will teach you alot more - in a shorter amount of time. AND hands on - all the time ! ! !

I'm not very positive about such schools.
And noticing how they "pop-up" all over the place - not only in the u.s. but also in europe - it smells more of a quick way to gain money for them - not to gain knowledge for you.

Don't get me wrong - it is possible to learn stuff there - and it's mostly up to your own initiative how much you will learn.

BUT consider this:

how many of those schools and programs are there meanwhile?
how many young people attend such schools/programs?
how many jobs are still available in this biz?

today's internships are just a modern form of slavery to me.
they're exploitin' the dreams of youngsters - just because they can.

IF you're lucky - you get the chance to intern in a big/good studio that hopefully will pay you after an adequate amount of time and you will climb the ladder.

But how many of them are existant around your town.
Not every town has 5-10 Hitfactory's around.


I would really re-consider keeping my PAYING job and use the money I earn to buy equipment/studio time and invest in networking.
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By Smoove03 Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:23 pm
j.m. i sort of agree with you but i think going to school is a good thing!!! i would love to goto school for audio engineering. i was looking into it for a while but the prices are ridiculous. i definately think its worth it. cause when you get out you'll know what your talkin about. school for me would further my education within music and if i decide to go my own way ill have the knowledge ill need to do my thang the right way. and internships are pretty tight. yea they may ask you to go make them a cup of coffee or wipe that spill up but man what you expect? there's no way to get across the road to fame wit no pain. unless your president bush! but since were not we have to make some sacrafices to go where we wanna go in life. if you do decide to go tht route and hit one of them schools i support that. i would go. lol but i cant even begin to think how i would pay 18+ g's for school right now. just not in the budget. especialy when they dont even offer financial aid. but you'd still have to pay them back. and as far as how many jobs are still in the biz...im not sure....but theres a place in the biz for us. we just gotta reserve a spot. how do we do that?

put in work.

By Earnest Magilakutti Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:22 pm
Do not waste your money on one of these schools.It's a joke...I can't count the people I have met that work at Guitar Center or Sam Ash that went to school for audio engineering.Spend $30,000 to get a job selling music gear for pennies on the dollar not a wise choice.To be completely honest with you all of the knowledge in the world is available to you at a fraction of the cost.Books.All of the basic concepts of recording and mixing audio can be found in books.Read, study and teach yourself.If you are really seriuous about it then spend the money and buy gear to experiment with.Recording studios are closing left and right due to the great sound that can be attained from a home computer,some software and a good audio interface.The Education system is really going down hill all the education in the world still does not grant you a job.Gotta Hustle man...Gotta Hustle...
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By Smoove03 Thu Nov 04, 2004 6:19 pm
feelin that
By pisnooky Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:37 pm
DON'T GO TO "INSTITUTE OF AUDIO RESEARCH" THATS A BIG RIP OFF NO HANDS ON TRAINING. I WENT THERE AND IT'S HORRIBLE
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By binger0 Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:11 am
yeah almost everyone i talk to about SAE or fullsail or IAR said its complete bullshit. they offer no placement and the shit u learn u can learn buy urself with a few books and a couple of magazines. U should do what these dudes are doin and just teach urself. if ur into it u will learn it. I went to an open house at iar and it looked cool and sounded like a good idea, but now i have the knowledge and the equipment here at the crib so im cool on droppin loot on that mess.
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By ieism Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:16 am
there you go. So Pisnooky is going to bring his books over to your new studio (that you can afford now that we've ruled out school), and you're going to pay pay him $2000 for private lessons. :wink:

You'll have:
A: A slammin studio
B: Lots of hands on training
C: Helped a brother make some cash.
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By DJQRS1 Fri Nov 05, 2004 1:29 am
Here i go i got a major university with the 2nd top program in the nation in audio engineering Middle Tennesse State im only 13 right now so i got time to change my mind but ima do dat degree major in dat den minor in some type of business degree then after i graduate go back and get a business degree
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By Blue Haze Sat Nov 06, 2004 7:42 pm
Check out the Berklee Music/Production Course if you like. :D
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By Philly Stress Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:29 am
When I went to Full Sail they had over 100 Million Dollars of Gear!
I mean, Neve Capircorns,Neves with Flying Faders ,Sony Oxford, I think they had an API Console, SSL J 9000's about 10 studios and One hundred Personal work stations.Everyone who comes out of there should have 1 up on Quincy Jones (LOL) Just other day, I met a guy that attended Omega school of recording who worked Guitar Center making ,I'm guessing 10 Dollars an hour????! AND HE NEVER Heard of an Sherman Filterbank or
and Emprical labs Disstressor, I was Schooling him!! Sad and Scary....