jpeg wrote:i just dont see any latency in the vid so not sure where this whole perception came from
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
Whoa! even the armrest is a pad!
Ill-Green wrote:
bobbybland wrote:Thanks for the confirmation jah, I just wanted to make sure it felt good. Im using rme interfaces @ 32ms, and the most I ever bump up my mix projects is to about 256ms for mixes. So the ren seems like it will fit nicely in the setup,providing it has certain features upon release.
**** wrote:JAH wrote:The Ren as said before many times, can achieve sub 5 ms of latency.
only in combination with a powerful computer and proper drivers. but remember: the ren is targeted towards kids and wannabe-producers. and these kids doesn´t always have the newest ans fastest computers.
can you dig it?
LZ Roberts wrote:**** wrote:JAH wrote:The Ren as said before many times, can achieve sub 5 ms of latency.
only in combination with a powerful computer and proper drivers. but remember: the ren is targeted towards kids and wannabe-producers. and these kids doesn´t always have the newest ans fastest computers.
can you dig it?
Noticed this by **** - he's got a point about the less powerful computers n'stuff. If you think about where some of the ground breaking music came from, it tends to be where the kids don't have access to the top-flight gear. Hip-hop from NY ghettos. Acid from Chi ghettos. Punk from London ghettos etc. All done on cheap-sh*t secondhand shop gear.
In contrast Dubstep requires a healthy budget and great technical knowledge - the result - Skrillex = a phenomenal & dull cul-de-sac.
The kids with the old cheap computers are not to be underestimated... and if they can't use the Ren because of latency, then they'll be using something else. Probably the mpc1000s that Ren users have ditched.
DJ Hellfire wrote:but you're forgetting that these same broke kids aren't gonna have an arsenal of resource hoggin, expensive VST's either.
moyphee wrote:DJ Hellfire wrote:but you're forgetting that these same broke kids aren't gonna have an arsenal of resource hoggin, expensive VST's either.
Youtube and the rest of the net says different. Those lil thieves have some of the best stuff out there. If it's not protected by a dongle or hardware they have it. Just because they have to steal it doesn't mean they aren't using it.
DJ Hellfire wrote:. If they are using it, then they have computers that can handle it.
moyphee wrote:DJ Hellfire wrote:. If they are using it, then they have computers that can handle it.
I see what your saying but nobody renders VST/i plugs in real time. These guys substantially lighten their cpu load by freezing the tracks.
Well, Pro Tools does (in a sense; audio tracks), but I never sequence in Pro Tools. Only use it as a sound module! But my computer could handle it. I always run my effects plug-ins in real-time. Either way, if this were an issue for a Ren user, they could simply resample the VST and sequence it back in like people have been doing with hardware MPC's and hardware/software sound modules for years. 
**** wrote:jpeg wrote:i just dont see any latency in the vid
are you fvcking serious dude??
**** wrote:jpeg wrote:i just dont see any latency in the vid
are you fvcking serious dude??
mcroepster wrote:**** wrote:JAH wrote:The Ren as said before many times, can achieve sub 5 ms of latency.
but remember: the ren is targeted towards kids and wannabe-producers. and these kids doesn´t always have the newest ans fastest computers.
can you dig it?
No I can't.
That statement is utter nonsense.!
peace
mcroepster wrote:That statement is utter nonsense.!
jpeg wrote:utter bollocks how on earth did son conclude that the mpc ren is targeted at kids and wanna be's pure delusional hater ism, see how peeps can demonise or attempt to ridicule anything that does not subscribe to their own slanted viewpoint
