Chord list for JJ OS

MPC2500 number pad makes this faster to input. Didn't check for errors yet.

M 4 7
M7 4 7 11
M9 4 7 11 2
M11 4 7 11 2 5
M13 4 7 11 2 9
dim 3 6
dim7 3 6 9
add4 4 5 7
add9 4 7 2
M7sus4 5 7 11
6 4 7 9

m 3 7
m7 3 7 10
m9 3 7 10 2
m11 3 7 10 2 5
m13 3 7 10 2 9
aug 4 8
aug7 4 8 10
mAdd4 3 5 7
mAdd9 3 7 2
7sus4 5 7 10
m6 3 7 9

5 7
7 4 7 10
9 4 7 10 2
11 4 7 10 2 5
sus2 2 7
sus4 5 7
7add4 4 5 7 10
7sus2 2 7 10
9sus4 2 5 7 10
7/6 4 7 9 10

so what is this then?? you know chord bank has a lot but not all, and any one with half a brain can do his. And where is my MAj7(#11), Min7(#9), or 7(b9). Ah the jazz chord are good fun. and you got 7/6 but not 9/6. All i am saying is that there are plenty more chords I use not mentioned. So i was waiting to see if JJ makes it possible to save these to disk instead of ROM> as is now. At least we can name them though, that is great hey. But we are limited to 32 types, my other chord bank on my iPhone has 60 types. So again another reason to want to be able to save them separately to disk not ROM>
Get back to me when you have figured out the rest And we can compare notes. Or better still lets wait and see if it is changed to be able to save and share the work. You make some chords and I will make a few and between us we could do say 32 of one set and 32 of another set maybe of rarer chords. As we can only save 32 chords types at the moment.

The chord section really needs to be improved. 32 chords is not enough. I tried to just setup a set with the space available, but there needs to be much more slots available, and they need to be able to be saved to card.

There also needs to be sets, like the DRUM tracks have with "Pad Mode Assign List". With a CHORD track, you should be able to press [WINDOW] on the chord and get to the "Pad to Chord" screen like it has now. Then it should have sets like the DRUM tracks, but instead of sets 1--10 it's SCALE and KEY, where you select which scale and key you want and then all your chords are assigned to all the pads in that scale and key.

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you are making it way more complicated and less flexible there. All you need is to be able to save. I say this as if you know your music theory, you will know there are way too many scales to program. Even just the bleeding minor keys. who is to say it is natural or harmonic minor scale. So you see it is not a good idea to make it a set way. It has to be open and flexible as it is now. Just maybe more slots yes, 64 instead of 32. you and me are the only ones making them like and I have only made a few. I did not go any further as I am still deciding what to put in chord wise. 32 needs to be 64 I think, then I can put them all in. And the ability to save pad chord assignments as well. THis way we can make our chords, and also our own scales of chords on the banks and save them. IF we had ability to name and save these chord pad assignments then we are in business. see then we just save a chord pad assignment file and call it Cmaj/naturalminorA. That way you can do anything as opposed to it being set in stone if it was all programmed. Just way too many scales. Look at wiki and tell me you expect all those scales and modes could be programmed into MPC OS. ITs not a good call programming wise, it would take for ever to set all the rules for scale conversions. errrggghhh nightmare, so you see it is better we hae a open flexible, not set in stone architecture. Just more slots for all those jazz chords AND the ability to name and save

It doesn't mean "set" as in, unchangeable. It means, a set, like, a bank.

On MAIN screen, press [MODE] + F6 (P.STATS). See F4 (Set-) and F5(Set+).

Chord assignments need to be like that, so you can have one setup with a certain scale or whatever setup across all the pads and banks, then have another on another set. Then to switch, all you do is like that where you change sets, and you don't have to load anything or re-assign.

I see what ya saying. But it is over kill and not needed IMHO. Why? Like how many compositions do you do that take more than 8 scales of chords. Not many I guess. We just need to save. A tip here that works well in chord mode is to use footswitch to change banks. I have then 4 scales across two banks and can switch to relative major/minor scale hands free. good fun to. I have requested to cycle the footswitch bank select as well as this would be awesome. sample wise as well of course. Its kinda feeling broken at the moment as the foot switch does not go back or cycle. AAARrrrrrrgggghhhhhh, you got no idea how much I need these ideas done. Just these ideas would make everything perfect, and the MPC JJOSXL would be that more useful and easier to use. And I would be happy with that. I use two foot switches as I work to, the other does the over dub on off to record as i jam. Go bump the thread for me about footswitch bank cycle to make everyone think about how bloody useful it would be. Cos you know it would be a better set up and seems like a easy thing to implement as it is all ready in there and just needs tweeking. A simple affair of programming goes the old joke. Sorry back on topic...... But as you see its kind of related and gives you a insight on how i use chord mode to.
Every song is gonna be in a different key/scale so sets is kinda ok but total overkill, and then you gotta be able to save and name the sets. Just way too much more programming as opposed to just being able to save to disk instead of ROM> and naming the assignment like CMajAmin. So practically you do not need to swap so many really, as you can fit 8 scales over 4 banks. unless you are doing multiple key changes then its enough. this way relevant keys can be grouped saving you time to searching for the 5ths or Relative maj/min ect. there are hundreds of scales multiplied by multiple keys, so good luck making all them ya gonna need it. that and a hell of a lot of time to. just no way you could do that. sure you can make a few, but they are gonna be only a few scales needed for what ever key your in anyways, unless you are using modern chromatic composition techniques that bounce through every key in a classical way. even then you have 8 scales of every chord if you use all 4 banks. WTF you need more than that for?? I think if you need more then you need to brush up on your music theory there and then you will see how having every scale and key is not needed or wanted. again its about choice of what type of key scale that determins the music itself, so sets of scales is silly to me as you would know what scale and key you choose to be in. If you do not know what scale or key you are in, then having sets will not help because of the many variations on the many scales as well. get me. So really to me sets of scales is not useful at all because you have enough and you can not really bounce through different modes in one song unless you are some classical composer that knows what they are doing

JJ said no go. Not enough resources it seems. So no extra slots, we have just the 32. And not to disk either, but that seems unclear to me exactly, as it seems they overlooked that, or it was same answer as above. ie no go here.

Hmm. That sucks.

But...

Maybe patterns can replace chords.

Make a pattern for each chord type. Then use the pattern transpose for setting the key.

Then set those up in the program sets. Those can be saved.

Jamon wrote:Hmm. That sucks.

But...

Maybe patterns can replace chords.

Make a pattern for each chord type. Then use the pattern transpose for setting the key.

Then set those up in the program sets. Those can be saved.

yeah I am more likely to just make different chords as I need them. And in case yu did not know, transpose of chords will not always be change of key. This is not how chords work. They are dependent on the chosen scale and key. To transpose does not change key. Its complicated, but you should know that simply transpose is not how you change to another key.

That's what the current chords do though. You set the numbers, and it seems to just transpose from the note you select. So if you set it to be +2, if you use C it plays C and D. But if you use D, then it plays D and E.

It only had 6 slots though, and some chords need more. With patterns you can setup as many as you want.

Please tell me what chord needs that many notes? none I know that is for sure. unless it is on guitar, it will only have 4 - 5 notes at once for keyboards. I am not gonna explain music theory to you. Just take it for me its more complicated than just transpose. Scale gives intervals, chords rely on the intervals of the scale. So transpose will not change to major to minor, major to minor, as intervals are different. And no it does not mean the difference between choosing the note or minor / major. It does not work like that. All you see is the way the intervals are spaced, but this depends on scale and root note chosen to. So the 3rd degree, (mediant) of C major (ionian) is E minor. So you see transpose will give you wrong chord in this case if you transpose C major up 3 intervals for the mediant chord(3rd interval). You will have a major triad shape instead of the proper minor intervals shape. So hopefully that will make it clear to you that you need to know your music theory and you can not just transpose shape to make proper key change.

C13

C13 is 5 slots, so try again there dude. plenty of room with 6 slots hey. can be done with one hand. yea some rarer chords will have 5. but you have 6 slots so you kinda lost your own argument there.
Transpose of chord is not proper transpose scale wise. It may have same word (transpose), but theory dictates chord from intervals of scale. So transpose will not give you major/minor transpose. It will not change keys properly either, unless you are lucky and just so happens to match up, which it can, but generally it does not. if I want to transpose C major to third interval of C major scale, it is a E minor chord shape. So transpose will not work correctly in this case. to transpose properly you need to know your theory. Look up wiki Jamon, and even though it might take few days to soak it all up, it is very good to learn the theory of scales and intervals, and how the relevant chord is made from that scale. So dont think that transpose will just do key change properly because it will not. Just so you know, and save you a few **** later, when you think you are transposing but are not getting t right.

C13

C E G A# D F G#

do you know voicing, or mode? C13 is usual dominant 7 with added 13. mixolydian I think, so it will be 1 3 (5) b7 9 13. Usually a note is dropped as well. what you have is a compound voicing, so two chords together, common in jazz. Rare as to, so know i think you are being a dick