Does the Mpc quick-fade edges automatically?

When ever I chop shit up and make a beat in logic, I get those tail end blips on both sides of the sample. Even after manually fading the edges and listening to them individually, then assigning them to a midi instrument, logics esx inst still has those edge blips when i trigger the sound.

I never had problems on my XL which makes me wonder, do all the mpc's automatically fade the samples in and out at like a 10ms equal power type of fade or something? Anyone know this?

Yep! It fades out the last 30 milliseconds to prevent that clicking and popping that comes from the waveform coming to an abrupt end. That's why if you load a rimshot sample off disk you can get pure silence if it's too short. Saves a lot of time rather than adding decay to every fcking sample.

m56p87 wrote:Yep! It fades out the last 30 milliseconds to prevent that clicking and popping that comes from the waveform coming to an abrupt end. That's why if you load a rimshot sample off disk you can get pure silence if it's too short. Saves a lot of time rather than adding decay to every fcking sample.

Thats the positive way of seeing this.

The negative is: Thats one of the reason why many people say they have problems with timing because there are those gaps between chops. Many people chop by sight and set the endpoint where the new waveformpeak starts. By oing this they shorten every chop 30ms because of this fadeout. If you chop by ear you'll set the endoint of a chop way in the next hit and avoid the lost of the 30ms.

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For sure unless im trimming the entire sample I almost always chop by ear so that's probably why I didn't take that into consideration in terms of how I see the feature. I think if it wasn't there youd probably spend the same amount of time adding decay to each sample?

ahhhhhh. thanks to both of you. this makes tons of sense. That's what i don't like about setting up other daws to behave like an mpc.... because you are usually STUCK with the samples you loaded in. where even the mpc gives you the ability to go in and change the trim on the sample, you could sloppily cut stuff up and just adjust the samples latter. In modern daws, you have to go back and fix it, reload it into what ever instrument device is triggering it.

I want an XL again.

^not a logic user but most samplers (soft/hard) allow you manage some form of amp envelope so you could roll off the end or begginging still if you wanted. A lot of programs also have sample editors built in that allow destructive fade in or fade out of the sample I'm pretty sure logic has this.

m56p87 wrote:^not a logic user but most samplers (soft/hard) allow you manage some form of amp envelope so you could roll off the end or begginging still if you wanted. A lot of programs also have sample editors built in that allow destructive fade in or fade out of the sample I'm pretty sure logic has this.

yea that's true actually, the ESX instrument i use does have paramaters like that, but I never thought that they could perhaps work on imported samples. great point.

m56p87 wrote:^not a logic user but most samplers (soft/hard) allow you manage some form of amp envelope so you could roll off the end or begginging still if you wanted. A lot of programs also have sample editors built in that allow destructive fade in or fade out of the sample I'm pretty sure logic has this.

yea that's true actually, the ESX instrument i use does have paramaters like that, but I never thought that they could perhaps work on imported samples. great point.