Feature Suggestions: MPC Renaissance

JAH wrote:

JAH wrote:
You can use the mouse to move slice points but not insert or delete slice points. I love the way the Fantom G does it (I just hate the Fantom Gs 16 slice limit.)

Wait so, the only way to get slice points on a sample, hardware or software, is through the slice points allotted by either threshold, bpm, or TC? I understand we can adjust the sensitivity of these options, in addition to moving the slices to where we want them, but the ability to add and delete slices using either the hardware, software or preferably both seems like a huge workflow improvement as well as being something I assumed it had anyway.

The funny and ironic thing is, I did suggest that...directly to Akai.
After I tested the software in May, and noticed I could not do that...myself and my Akai Beta tester friend made a list of features we thought should be added. Sent it directly to Akai.

I did that, before I started visiting this forum regularly.

I'm just wow'd that that suggestion, which we thought was obvious and shouldn't need to be suggested, hasn't been implemented yet.

JAH wrote:This is why I previously generated threads to break down each mode and for forum members to discuss what that would like to see in each mode. Then my threads were locked because no one seen the added value....which was silly because this is the same time of thread. The other threads attempted to narrow the focus.

JAH, your threads weren't locked because of above, they were locked because others and yourself started going back and forth with each other and veering off topic and the thread got out of control.

i just wanted to point that out. now back on topic.

My suggestion is to have rewire support (from what i was told, this should be coming in one of the first set of updates)

Hmmmm....anyway...the MPC Ren has been released and many of those "others" aren't posting much anymore. Great:!:

Remember this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=147446&hilit=Virtual+Akai+MPC

I have tons of feature requests. But right now...I clearly want to see all the best features of legacy MPCs incorporated into the Ren:

1. Step Editor
2. Audio tracks
3. Sample Edit - assign/edit samples on pads
4. Quick FXs sampling
5. Larger sample waveform view

JAH wrote:2. Audio tracks

not that it matters to me but i agree. since this thing already has a mic input with phantom power, it would only make sense to add audio tracks. i mean hell, it's going to record to your computer anyway, no need to have it "stream" like the 5000 and JJ. (i know, i know, just using the terminology from those units) anyway, it should have it.

JAH wrote:1. Step Editor
2. Audio tracks
3. Sample Edit - assign/edit samples on pads
4. Quick FXs sampling
5. Larger sample waveform view

What exactly do you mean by #3? and also #4?

InspectahEX wrote:

JAH wrote:1. Step Editor
2. Audio tracks
3. Sample Edit - assign/edit samples on pads
4. Quick FXs sampling
5. Larger sample waveform view

What exactly do you mean by #3? and also #4?

3. While in Sample Edit Mode of MPCs today, that pads are used to play back the sample displayed in the waveform editor in multiple ways (Loop, Play All, Play From Start, Play to Start, etc). But in models like the MPC 3000, that pads play the active program. This allows you to strike Pad A01 (Kick) and quickly edit the sample. Then strike Pad A01 and then quickly edit that sample. This is awesome for workflow.

Adding this to the Ren would be really awesome as it has a waveform editor. So striking different pads will change what is displayed in the editor. The Ren already does something similar in Chop Mode when audition is turned on. Striking a pads, selects that slice to be edited.

Maschine and I believe the MV-8800 has this feature as well.

4. This is from the MPC 4000 which allows you to insert up to 4 effects into the signal path of incoming audio. Most of the newer keyboard samplers (Fantom G, Korg Kronos, etc) have this feature as well. The JJ OS has a similar feature which adds a real-time pitch shifter on input. So you can quickly change the pitch of incoming audio and sample it.

With the MPC 2500, 5000, and the Ren, the only option is to assign a sample to a pad, add insert effects to it, and then enter Sample Record Mode to resample it.

The ability to load .ALL and .APS files from legacy MPCs without having to load individual songs, sequences, and PGM's. I only tried it on the 2000xl, and Dan confirmed that you need to load the individual parts.

I didnt save indie seqs and pgms on the 2000xl. With all the seqs I made in each composition, that would have taken too long. I always saved .ALL and .APS.

When using 16 Level, if you change modes the 16 Level will revert back to the original state (in other words it turns off). It would be nice if 16 Level would turn on using the button and stay on until you turn it off again using the same 16 Level button.

Oddly, the 16 Level stays on when you change pad banks--this keeps you from accessing the other sounds until you turn off 16 Level by pressing the button. It would be easier if the 16 Level only remained on the pad bank that it was selected. In other words, the Ren should allow you to play the sounds in other banks while maintaining the 16 Level in the bank that was selected when you return to that bank.

LMSW wrote:When using 16 Level, if you change modes the 16 Level will revert back to the original state (in other words it turns off). It would be nice if 16 Level would turn on using the button and stay on until you turn it off again using the same 16 Level button.

+1

LMSW wrote:Oddly, the 16 Level stays on when you change pad banks--this keeps you from accessing the other sounds until you turn off 16 Level by pressing the button.

That is normal behavior for MPCs. Changing pad banks on the MPC 4000/3000 doesn't turn off 16 levels. All the pad banks plays back the same sample when 16 Levels is on.

I'd love to be able to drop at least one insert on each submix, or have inserts on the program Master...for example to compress all the sounds of 1 drum program.

Also, a SOLO option in the program mixer, opposite to where M for Mute is now.

Not sure if these have been mentioned:

The ability to purge all unused programs and sounds, or even to select multiple sounds or programs in the Project Information area would be great.

Also the ability to drag a folder to the pads and a program is auto created, placing the sounds in whatever order on the pads.

JAH wrote:3. While in Sample Edit Mode of MPCs today, that pads are used to play back the sample displayed in the waveform editor in multiple ways (Loop, Play All, Play From Start, Play to Start, etc). But in models like the MPC 3000, that pads play the active program. This allows you to strike Pad A01 (Kick) and quickly edit the sample. Then strike Pad A01 and then quickly edit that sample. This is awesome for workflow.

JAH wrote:

LMSW wrote:When using 16 Level, if you change modes the 16 Level will revert back to the original state (in other words it turns off). It would be nice if 16 Level would turn on using the button and stay on until you turn it off again using the same 16 Level button.

+1

LMSW wrote:Oddly, the 16 Level stays on when you change pad banks--this keeps you from accessing the other sounds until you turn off 16 Level by pressing the button.

That is normal behavior for MPCs. Changing pad banks on the MPC 4000/3000 doesn't turn off 16 levels. All the pad banks plays back the same sample when 16 Levels is on.

Ahhh I've been away from my 4000 too long and got used to "something else." Nevertheless, the feature would improve workflow--no?

Here's another feature request. When chopping a sample outside of Bank A, the audition should be maintained in the bank where the sample was placed. Excuse my language, but why in the hell do we have to go to bank A to audition chops from samples placed in other banks? Is it me?