bobbybland wrote:JAH wrote:bobbybland wrote:Well Currently if I have a program, and I use 16 sounds in it, I sequence 16 sounds in a sequence, I then go to mixdown the tracks separately, I change the outputs to different outs, , there's a problem ,I can't get anything other then a single wave file for the entire sequence and .pgm, so this is a major problem, which will probably make me RETURN the MPC. As this is a complete workflow killer.
I'd say this constitute's a major flaw in the current OS. To not compare the ren software to Maschine is pretty far fetched and it's gonna happen daily, for the rest of the lives of the products.Just saying, when a features good, perhaps the opposing team should run with it,if it works better.
Dan, is wrong if he thinks this isn't a major flaw.
That doesn't sound right...
1. Load a program with 16 sounds
2. Assign these program to 16 tracks
3. Record 1 sound per track
4. Go to Export and check the 'Render Separate Tracks'
You don't get 16 tracks of audio?
We're off to a bad start here, I'll explain..
MPC REN
1. Load program with 16 sounds - YES
2. Assign the program to 16 tracks <--- Are you kidding me? Why would I wanna do that? Other then the fact, that it's the only current way that Akai see's this fit...
Let me refresh my workflow with Maschine...
1. Load a program with 16 sounds..
2. Mixdown every sound from one track!!! <<<--- Notice no need to create 16 tracks!!! Does that make the workflow easier? Yeah it does, and this is apparently where Akai doesn't get the term workflow.. 
And #3.on the akai mpc ren workflow, Seriously?? Like I'm really gonna wanna track drums like this, record a kick track 1, record a snare track 2..Cymbal on track 3..
Not sure who in the world even tracks like this, but I bring up a kit, and record one .pgm all on one track.. Kick snare, Hats etc.. I never in my life would load up 16 different tracks for a realtime drum performance, not to mention chops and stabs..
That's just ridiculous
This is a big misunderstanding on maschine and mpc. Maschine's pattern is what MPC calls a sequence. All of maschines sounds are assigned to a track in the pattern. On the MPC the user can assign the sample aka midi note to a single track or multiple tracks free choice; whereas the Maschine this is automatically set up as multiple tracks. So in essence when you export the tracks in Maschine it is the same as the Ren a sound is assigned to a track. There are no single tracks with multiple sounds in maschine except instruments. Group in Maschine is equal to program in mpc when it comes to drums. Thus we drag out patterns aka sequences on the maschine with each sound be it a drum kick, snare, hi hat or bass riff assigned to a track in that pattern the same as Ren does export or logic bouncing midi to audio for export!
And another thing is that it is important to define export files and assigning outputs cuz some are getting it twisted.
Both maschine, mpcs, logic you named it allows for sound, pad, zone whatever you call it to be assigned to an individual output. Each output has to be assigned to a aux track in a daw for the audio to be mixed in the daw. But aux tracks don't record the audio until you bounce down the whole thing in logic pro. And aux tracks don't record or output midi data either. Aux tracks are essentially returns in a mixer,they are not multitracks in a records so it is asking for the impossible.
Second exports tracks is just that a bounced midi region that was assigned to a track changed into audio stems. All daws have the same function you can make a midi region on a track, separate the notes to tracks, like 8 or 10 fot drum programming, then select all to bounce the tracks to audio and export will take the audio stems outside your project, sequence, or whatever you call it saved to your desktop or external drive. So you can load it up in another daw or multitracker that has audio tracks. Line them up and mix.
Now if you want to send the tracks off to another studio this is good or a joint project this is idea to export tracks. But if you are working another and using maschine or Ren as a plugins it is simple and easy to just assign the sound aka pad to an output and that output to an aux track.
As for as midi simply save the pattern aka sequence drag or import to the daw and on logic pro hit separate note to track. But if mpc grooves better than logic why bring the midi region into logic in the first place?
