Turntable Preamp confusion

Hi everyone, I just got my MPC-1000 last week and am awaiting my turntable. I am a little confused about whether i need a preamp for the specific turntable i'm getting. The reason i'm confused is because the tutorial book i bought says all turntables require a separate preamp so you can hear it on the MPC. I noticed my turntable says it comes with a built in preamp, im wondering if the built in preamp will be enough, or do i need a separate one as well? Here are the specifications

Pre-amp "PHONO": 2.5 mV nominal at 1 kHz, 5 cm/sec

Pre-amp "LINE": 150 mV nominal at 1 kHz, 5 cm/sec

Phono Pre-Amp Gain: 36 dB nominal, RIAA equalized

and here's a link to the turntable if you need more info

http://www.amazon.com/Technica-AT-LP60- ... ca+AT-LP60

if you're turntable has a built in preamp then no, you don't need an external preamp.

you will want to operate the turntable at 'line level' - it has a switch or something.

tapedeck wrote:if you're turntable has a built in preamp then no, you don't need an external preamp.

you will want to operate the turntable at 'line level' - it has a switch or something.

Awesome! thank you! Yea it says it has a switchable pre-amp, now i understand what it means

Alright so i got my turntable, i just have a couple more questions. I noticed i cant put 1/4th adapters on the turntable cords, but it came with an adapter that i am able to put a 1/4th adapter on. The only problem is the adapter the turn table came with turns the red and white plugs into one. Im wondering if i would be able to put the adapter into just the right or left side of the MPC because it combines the red and white plugs. I know this sounds confusing through text so i took some pictures. I would just test it myself but i don't have any records yet. Also if that won't work what are my options?

Just make your life easier and go to Radio Shack and get 2 RCA to 1/4" adapters, they're not too much dough.

On some stereo gear you could could get a 2 channel doubled mono signal by plugging into only the white (left) channel. With your cable I don't know if the MPC would get a summed L/R signal or Just the L signal. I doubt you'd get L and R signals in the MPC, probably just the left.

Oh damn, i didn't even know those existed. Thanks for the info man! Can't wait to start sampling

yes just use two RCA->1/4" adapters.

that will be two mono plugs - while the one in your picture is one stereo plug (notice the two black lines).

tapedeck wrote:yes just use two RCA->1/4" adapters.

that will be two mono plugs - while the one in your picture is one stereo plug (notice the two black lines).

they make them cables, buy a dual 1/4 to dual RCA cable, not adapters.

adapters are cheap and nasty quick fix solutions, quality loss can be heard using those over a normal cable. buy a proper 1/4 to RCA balanced lead.

peeping tom wrote:

tapedeck wrote:yes just use two RCA->1/4" adapters.

that will be two mono plugs - while the one in your picture is one stereo plug (notice the two black lines).

they make them cables, buy a dual 1/4 to dual RCA cable, not adapters.

adapters are cheap and nasty quick fix solutions, quality loss can be heard using those over a normal cable. buy a proper 1/4 to RCA balanced lead.

its true - a full cable is a more elegant solution and props for pointing it out.

however i call bullshit on "quality loss can be heard using those over a normal cable" - that's false - an electrical connection is an electrical connection - dont believe the hype they try to sell you expensive (monster) cable with
also a 1/4 to RCA cable will, by definition, be unbalanced, so you have a bit of misinformation there.

not hating - just educating.

i do agree a 1/4" to RCA cable is a better more robust solution, but an adapter is a fine solution as well.

Hey guys, so i got my turntable setup and everything's working great , thank you all for the help!

tapedeck wrote:

peeping tom wrote:

tapedeck wrote:yes just use two RCA->1/4" adapters.

that will be two mono plugs - while the one in your picture is one stereo plug (notice the two black lines).

they make them cables, buy a dual 1/4 to dual RCA cable, not adapters.

adapters are cheap and nasty quick fix solutions, quality loss can be heard using those over a normal cable. buy a proper 1/4 to RCA balanced lead.

its true - a full cable is a more elegant solution and props for pointing it out.

however i call **** on "quality loss can be heard using those over a normal cable" - that's false - an electrical connection is an electrical connection - dont believe the hype they try to sell you expensive (monster) cable with
also a 1/4 to RCA cable will, by definition, be unbalanced, so you have a bit of misinformation there.

not hating - just educating.

i do agree a 1/4" to RCA cable is a better more robust solution, but an adapter is a fine solution as well.

i had two adapters, obviously they were cheap (your equivalent of walmart i guess) $2 connectors, they were **** shit, think they too loose (obviously cheaply made) and the movement / loose connection was my quality loss (i once pulled a connector off and it had actually lost the metal tip on the RCA cable - literally just fell off)

Didn't buy a monster cable, i heard they are over rated.

what i have a 1/4 TRS to RCA stereo lead, my bad for being misinformed on the balanced bit! (trust me im still learning the diff types and ways to use cables, no harm in schooling me, appreciate the pull up! !)

peeping tom wrote:i had two adapters, obviously they were cheap (your equivalent of walmart i guess) $2 connectors, they were **** shit, think they too loose (obviously cheaply made) and the movement / loose connection was my quality loss (i once pulled a connector off and it had actually lost the metal tip on the RCA cable - literally just fell off)

this is very true - what makes a good cable / adapter is sturdiness.

the only cable ive ever had literally come apart in my hand was a monster cable

your best bet is really to buy some 2c shielded wire and just make whatever cord you need. you soldering might suck at first but you will get better.