Mix Master

damien907 wrote: if you know what your doing....

That's the problem! Most people don't . I know from experiencthat being mostly self taught I missed important little things along the way that I had to go back and learn, which would be week 1 shit in school. Especially when it comes to signal flow and mixing; for example all those fcking posts in the "getting started" forum where noobs want to never have to touch a wire and have no idea they are in danger of having feedback loops and ground loops galore.

What I took from the "homeless dude advice" was that don't clog up your signal chain if you don't need too. The average bedroom enthusiast may want to use a mixer and then multitrack but they don't really need to.

But I tottally agree a mixer dosnt automatically equal audible noise.

this is a big part of the reason why i ended up upgrading to a mackie firewire mixer [the onyx 1220i]... this way i have both my "analog mixer" and recording interface in a single piece of equipment... and everything plugged into the mixer can be recorded as separate tracks via firewire without having to run cables into any additional equipment.

crossings wrote:this is a big part of the reason why i ended up upgrading to a mackie firewire mixer [the onyx 1220i]... this way i have both my "analog mixer" and recording interface in a single piece of equipment... and everything plugged into the mixer can be recorded as separate tracks via firewire without having to run cables into any additional equipment.

i was looking at those, anything else u can say about the 1220i?

TreCipher617 wrote:

crossings wrote:this is a big part of the reason why i ended up upgrading to a mackie firewire mixer [the onyx 1220i]... this way i have both my "analog mixer" and recording interface in a single piece of equipment... and everything plugged into the mixer can be recorded as separate tracks via firewire without having to run cables into any additional equipment.

i was looking at those, anything else u can say about the 1220i?

all i can really say is that i'm really pleased with the purchase. it does everything it's supposed to do flawlessly and i have no regrets at all... if you're thinking of getting one, just make sure you get the later onyx models with the "i" in the model name... the earlier ones are bulkier and don't come with the firewire card built-in [they were sold separately and not for cheap]... the 1220i suits my needs nicely, but if you have more space and need a larger mixer with more channels, then definitely look into the 1640i model.

one thing to keep in mind though... while this mixer has essentially become my full-time audio interface over time... it still doesn't have any MIDI capabilities... so while it's great for bridging your analog mixer with your computer... you may still need a separate device for MIDI signal... a simple USB MIDI cable can do the trick, but whatever you choose for MIDI is totally up to you.

thnx man

I use a noisy-ish 24 channel Allen and Heath GS3 mixer. I utilise all the aux sends and even some direct outs to send to reverb, delay, chorus, side chains, analogue external ins, etc.
each channel obv has eq and I have 4 stereo buses to route channels to.
I don't care much for struggling to get uber clean, I care more for creating wonderful warm sounds with all that hands-on immediacy and routing options. Then you don't notice the noise. Besides, I like a bit if noise and you can play with it. Sure I'd love to be able to afford an SSL or evan Toft ATB..

I say take advice about your own music creation lightly. One person's major big deal will be another person's 'meh'.