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By Rokgod Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:10 am
ok I just made another beat, it had 6 vst plug -ins, all were sample tank 2.5xl, when I bounced the audio mixdown once again, no matter what mp3 or wav, my mixdown comes out messed up, like the octaves, they are playing lower then when I made the beat. And it's just the vsts that will sound messed up, the drums over them which were samples are fine and the pitch is the same, its only doing this to vst's when I mix down

????

I'll wait one more update, if this thing doest work right by then I'm selling this baby
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By JAH Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:27 pm
MPC-Tutor wrote:For anyone bug reporting, it is VITAL that you include your system specs, and don't expect anyone to trawl through your previous posts to find that out. If you want bugs fixed, report them properly and it stands more of a chance of being taken seriously.

To report a bug the minimum info needed is:

MPC Software version
Operating system & version
Any other specs that may be relevant (e.g. audio interface and drivers used when dealing with audio issues, VST details and version etc)

Step by step reproduction, i.e.

1) 'File > New Project'
2) Load sample from browser by dragging to program
etc etc.

You may also be expected to provide error messages and screenshots, plus example files you were loading - bundle them into a zip and upload to mediafire or similar. The more details you give, the more likely a fix will be made.

But remember this is not official support for Akai, so don't start getting all shirty because one of the volunteers here is offering to report the bug on your behalf. This forum is not here to vent your anger at Akai over bugs. Ultimately you should report the bug directly to Akai through their official support system.

:nod:

If you are not doing this..whether here or sending to Akai technical support, you do not want to get your issues addressed.
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By JAH Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:18 pm
InspectahEX wrote:ok I just made another beat, it had 6 vst plug -ins, all were sample tank 2.5xl, when I bounced the audio mixdown once again, no matter what mp3 or wav, my mixdown comes out messed up, like the octaves, they are playing lower then when I made the beat. And it's just the vsts that will sound messed up, the drums over them which were samples are fine and the pitch is the same, its only doing this to vst's when I mix down

????

I'll wait one more update, if this thing doest work right by then I'm selling this baby

So I just purchased Sample Tank 2.5XL to test this issue. SampleTank is not stable....won't even run as a standalone app without crashing on OSX 10.7.5.
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By JAH Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:59 pm
InspectahEX wrote:really? it works fine for me on 10.8.2

You have to copy the sound files to the sample tank instrument folder >Library>ApplicationSupport>IKmultimedia>Sampletank>instruments

I'll try that (even though that is odd as it lets you choose the location to install the library during installation). But it won't even load samples without crashing on 10.7.5. I just spent spent $150 on this app just to test out the issue you are having.

At least one other tester has been using SampleTank with the Ren but isn't reporting the issue you are having. While I am trying to get my SampleTank up and running, I shoot him an email and ask him to test the issue you are having.
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By JAH Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:34 pm
InspectahEX wrote:I was having the sample tank issues last night, it never happened before in v1.0, sample tank worked fine and i figured out how to get it in the Ren, its a pain in the ass to install the sounds

I was able to confirm your issue using a more stable plugin...Mach Five 3. :lol:

When I exported my tracks, the instrument tracks (bass, keyboard, strings) were pitched up.
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By JAH Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:10 am
JAH wrote:
IMAKEMADBEATS wrote:the slice point markers do move pretty eratic, nowhere near as smooth as 1.0.
I don't know if thats a "bug" or not. If everyone is experiencing this, no need for a video. If not, I'll post one.

Doesn't take long to post a video which would be helpful...or not.

I personally see too much difference in sample editing comparing 1.0 to 1.1.

I looked at this extensively again while waiting for the videos you guys said you would post.

The difference between 1.0 and 1.1 is the sample position indicator and zooming in. When you are zoomed in, the actual waveform scrolls. This makes it more difficult to preview and edit. If you have the sample/slice start point displayed to the left of your computer monitor and then press a pad to preview, the sample/start point is shifted to the middle of the LCD. When you stop previewing, it can shift back to the left. It looks chaotic if you are editing multiple slices while zoomed in.
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By IMAKEMADBEATS Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:45 am
JAH wrote:I looked at this extensively again while waiting for the videos you guys said you would post.


I cant post sh!t concerning this right now, because of another problem.

But what I'm talking about regarding this, has nothing to do with zoom. Wish I could just post the video, and you would see what we're talking about. Do you have 1.0 installed on a machine? The build you are using I'm sure is beyond what was sent to us as 1.1.
By Heavie Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:01 am
Building a stable and bug-less os for every variation of users will be like beating a dead horse. Every update will cause problem for others. I notice a new bug yesterday with a beat sample chop in a new program. Some pad cancel out other pad in a sequence. Example: A pad with a snare will make a pad with kick drop out. The kicks was record on one track in the sequence and I tried to record the snares in another track. The snare silent the kick as if I used up all the Polyphony in old drum machine. I had to create a copy of the same program to work around it.
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By JAH Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:29 am
Heavie wrote: I notice a new bug yesterday with a beat sample chop in a new program. Some pad cancel out other pad in a sequence. Example: A pad with a snare will make a pad with kick drop out. The kicks was record on one track in the sequence and I tried to record the snares in another track. The snare silent the kick as if I used up all the Polyphony in old drum machine. I had to create a copy of the same program to work around it.

This is not a bug. The sounds in your program cut each other off because of your Program's [F1] Master Mode Polyphony setting and [F5]Mute Group setting:

1. Change your program Master Mode to Poly; it is Mono by default

2. Turn Off Mute Group for the offending Snare and Kick; both are set to Mute Group 1 by default

Once you do this, your sounds won't cut each other out.
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By JAH Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:50 am
IMAKEMADBEATS wrote:
JAH wrote:I looked at this extensively again while waiting for the videos you guys said you would post.


I cant post sh!t concerning this right now, because of another problem.

But what I'm talking about regarding this, has nothing to do with zoom. Wish I could just post the video, and you would see what we're talking about. Do you have 1.0 installed on a machine? The build you are using I'm sure is beyond what was sent to us as 1.1.

I believe I see this issue now. It is certainly a bug.
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By JAH Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:19 pm
InspectahEX wrote:ok I just made another beat, it had 6 vst plug -ins, all were sample tank 2.5xl, when I bounced the audio mixdown once again, no matter what mp3 or wav, my mixdown comes out messed up, like the octaves, they are playing lower then when I made the beat. And it's just the vsts that will sound messed up, the drums over them which were samples are fine and the pitch is the same, its only doing this to vst's when I mix down

????

I'll wait one more update, if this thing doest work right by then I'm selling this baby

Upon closer look....this may be a sample rate issue.

1. Go into the Ren's Preferences and set the Sample Rate to 48000 hz
2. Create your project as you have done previously
3. When Exporting, use 24 Bit 48 Khz

Let me know your results.

What I find is that if you keep the same sample rates, it exports exactly as recorded. But if the project is recorded at one sample rate and exported at a different sample rate, you will notice some pitch changes on instrument tracks.
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By IMAKEMADBEATS Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:35 pm
JAH wrote:
IMAKEMADBEATS wrote:
JAH wrote:I looked at this extensively again while waiting for the videos you guys said you would post.


I cant post sh!t concerning this right now, because of another problem.

But what I'm talking about regarding this, has nothing to do with zoom. Wish I could just post the video, and you would see what we're talking about. Do you have 1.0 installed on a machine? The build you are using I'm sure is beyond what was sent to us as 1.1.

I believe I see this issue now. It is certainly a bug.


:nod:
Cool.
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By optik415 Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:25 pm
JAH wrote:
InspectahEX wrote:Also, my automation only works when it feels like it, sometimes works, sometimes doesnt, I dont know why

I tried to reproduce every issue you have been posting....most of the times with no luck.

There is free screen capture software that you can record the issues you are experiencing. I suggest you do that so others can troubleshoot your issues or fix if it is an actual bug.



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