Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
By daftmunk Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:40 pm
clint246clint wrote:Nobody really seems to be interested in the DSI Tempest from what I can see...


nobody in the hip-hop producing community, just like the elektron octatrack.. but i can assure you people in the electronic music community have been more than interested in it (it's the most viewed thread on gearslutz edm subforum) as a tempest owner i can also say it's a brilliant product very much in the lineage of the roger linn legacy... just wanted to say that as a side note
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By Coz Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:39 pm
daftmunk wrote:
clint246clint wrote:Nobody really seems to be interested in the DSI Tempest from what I can see...


nobody in the hip-hop producing community, just like the elektron octatrack.. but i can assure you people in the electronic music community have been more than interested in it (it's the most viewed thread on gearslutz edm subforum) as a tempest owner i can also say it's a brilliant product very much in the lineage of the roger linn legacy... just wanted to say that as a side note




Definitely. :nod:

Users seem to be blown away with it, and with any luck I will have one soon(ish). :smoker:
By Clint Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:11 pm
MPC60 book thoughts and suggestions, trying not to get the conversation side-tracked here?

Any links to Roger Linn interviews and stories, producer/ artist interviews, obscure Akai Professional info, anecdotal ramblings etc???? Please mail to [email protected]. I'd also be interested in hearing testimony from anyone who purchased an MPC60 brand new back in the day.
By m56p87 Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:47 pm
I'm still looking for a full video of when I saw linn speak in September, but I think for this book to work you'd have to develop and on going interaction with roger Linn (& others who helped create the devices) He litterally shits gold nuggets of information without even trippin bout it. So any book done without full disclosure of sed nuggets would only scratch the surface, and would deserve to be overtaken by a more in depth better mpc60/linn book done down the line.

Something I just remembered that makes me laugh, Carl Craig said he & fellow producers were blown away by the 3000 when he was young because of its clean pure sound compared to all the samplers that were out at the time. :lol: now we are blown away by its tottally unclean colored sound :lol: :lol:
By daftmunk Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:04 pm
m56p87 wrote: but I think for this book to work you'd have to develop and on going interaction with roger Linn (& others who helped create the devices) He litterally **** gold nuggets of information without even trippin bout it. So any book done without full disclosure of sed nuggets would only scratch the surface, and would deserve to be overtaken by a more in depth better mpc60/linn book done down the line.


i agree 100% why dig for old interviews when you could get your own exclusive material, like i said roger is surprisingly talkative and responsive to emails and mike mc roberts has participated on here of his own free will, but for this to even get started i think you need to maybe get in touch with a professional author/publisher to get proper advice on how to build such a project
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By SimonInAustralia Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:23 pm
daftmunk wrote:i agree 100% why dig for old interviews when you could get your own exclusive material

...to include all possible old info in the book, as well as new info, and to know exactly what has already been asked and answered already, to allow any new questions to be more focused on info not previously covered, or on previously covered info that needs more detail and/or clarification.

To be as complete as possible, I think it is best to dig for as many old interviews and other info as can be found, research it as thoroughly as you can.
By m56p87 Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:44 pm
SimonInAustralia wrote:
daftmunk wrote:i agree 100% why dig for old interviews when you could get your own exclusive material

...to include all possible old info in the book, as well as new info, and to know exactly what has already been asked and answered already, to allow any new questions to be more focused on info not previously covered, or on previously covered info that needs more detail and/or clarification.

To be as complete as possible, I think it is best to dig for as many old interviews and other info as can be found, research it as thoroughly as you can.


I don't think he meant it as to not be thourough, he think he meant it as don't just regurgitate and consolidate what's already out there.
By Clint Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:34 pm
Simon knows whats up.

The title of the thread clearly states 'Researching', and research starts from a point of finding out what has already been said (secondary research) in order to assist and focus efforts to gain new material (primary research). A good analogy is to think of it like...sampling...to create something new and original.

Of course the credibilty of such a project would be greatly enhanced if Roger and other members of the development team made a contribution, that much is obvious. And I can't travel around to interview everyone, nor should I have to.

With a project like this the secondary research must be done first, before approaching certain people. Roger isn't going to provide a whole books worth of quotes and nor is anybody else. We need to find out as much as possible about everything.

FWIW I have done academic research projects at BA and MSc level. Although this is not an academic project the basic research principles are pretty much the same. So I have a pretty good idea of what type of information might be relevant to this book.

@daftmunk

The project would have to be self published, but first the book needs to be written. Without a manuscript you have nothing to publish. The main issues here are funding the project, those are the issues that caused problems delivering the SP1200 book. You have to pay up front for each print run, thats why they needed pre-orders to get the books out. Its hard to estimate the costs without knowing how many pages, how many photos, B&W or colour, size, paper quality, print method and distribution method. Like I said, it's a can of worms...

I am doing my homework, you can be sure of that. :wink:
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By Dj Khayos Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:21 am
clint246clint wrote:There was a book about the SP1200 a year or so ago, sold out faster than a rat up a drainpipe so I still haven't seen a copy. No pdf has been made available to my knowledge which is fair enough for obvious reasons. Arguably there are more MPC60 users than SP1200 users, and the machine has achieved equally cult status among beatsmiths and producers worldwide across many genres. So wouldn't it be great if we had a similar book for our coffee tables and labs? But what would you like to see inside such a book?

I may even author such a book myself as a 12-18 month side project. I've never written a book before and don't know a thing about publishing so I'll be looking into self-publishing scenarios. I'm willing to give it serious consideration at this point. So what was good or bad about the 'SP-1200: The Art And The Science' and what sections/ chapters would a book about the mighty MPC60 ideally contain?

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If you have relevant knowledge, copy material or other contribution to make towards a book project please contact me at [email protected].

Clint


Bring it on man, 60/3000. 16 pads extruding on the cover please ;)
By jandoe Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:21 pm
Even though I don't have an SP1200 I bought the book. I really like the combination of in depth technical information and the stories of the producers. The best thing are the footnotes of the chief engineer of the sp 1200. He explains how they implemented the pitching of the samples and stuff like that. I had lectures about digital signal processing in university and by far the SP1200 book is the coolest introduction to this dsp-stuff ever! Books like this should be used in schools to show the kids the cool stuff that can be made with some knowledge in electronics, math and computer science.

So if a book about the mpc 60 will be written I'd like to read the nerdiest tech stuf from roger linn & co and the stories behind the beats from Primo, Shadow, Ayatollah, K-Def and gurus of this forum. I'll be the first to cop it!