GIVE UP?

Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
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GIVE UP?

By Knobs Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:00 pm
Should I give up on my MPC 2000 classic?? I've searched back posts for solutions to my problems but couldn't find anything.

F'in "disk errors" and "scsi errors" are killing me. I'm trying to load saved files from my zip to the mpc--here's what's happening:

While in the loading/saving section, I can see my files on the SCSI. When I try to bring in ALL_SONGS_SEQUENCES the screen reads: "Wait..........". I wait... and now, either "SCSI error" or it jumps back to the load/save screen then jumps to the main screen. However, I successfully loaded individual sounds as well as "All programs". I don't know why it's always getting stuck when I attempt to load ALL_SONGS_SEQUENCES

Sorry if this is confusing. Any help would be appreciated!

Knobs
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Re: GIVE UP?

By tapedeck Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:24 pm
give up on the zips for sure.

its a good machine - zips are terrible. :mrgreen:
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Re: GIVE UP?

By mr_debauch Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:32 pm
well, are you sure whether or not this is an issue with the zip disks, zip drive, or scsi... or is it an issue with the machine? does it do that from floppy or other things you may have connected?
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Re: GIVE UP?

By Lampdog Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:28 pm
tapedeck wrote:give up on the zips for sure.

its a good machine - zips are terrible. :mrgreen:

Re: GIVE UP?

By JVC Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:44 am
I did give up on MPC-2000 classic, moved to XL.
I don't think 2000 classic is bad machine, if you can deal with poor data storage support; external SCSI port and floppy disk only and no support for file directory (means you cannot make folders.)
I couldn't take it, moved on to XL, I'm happy with XL, I don't miss 2000 classic at all.

Re: GIVE UP?

By m56p87 Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:23 pm
Lampdog wrote:
tapedeck wrote:give up on the zips for sure.

its a good machine - zips are terrible. :mrgreen:

Re: GIVE UP?

By Knobs Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:32 pm
Thanks greatly for the replies. it's nice to have an educated community at the tip of my fingers.

Debauch--in regards to the floppies--I will quite often get "disk read errors" when turning on the machine. I use os v1.72. That is also frustrating but the disk eventually works.

I started using the zip because I have the tendency to work on multiple beats at a time (which is proving to be a bad habbit).

Maybe I should get used to making one beat, saving to floppy and moving on.

Orrrrr I go buy a 2500
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Re: GIVE UP?

By Coz Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:41 pm
Knobs wrote:Orrrrr I go buy a 2500




The 2500 is the perfect upgrade from the 2K/XL. :wink:

Re: GIVE UP?

By m56p87 Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:41 pm
Knobs wrote:Thanks greatly for the replies. it's nice to have an educated community at the tip of my fingers.

Debauch--in regards to the floppies--I will quite often get "disk read errors" when turning on the machine. I use os v1.72. That is also frustrating but the disk eventually works.

I started using the zip because I have the tendency to work on multiple beats at a time (which is proving to be a bad habbit).

Maybe I should get used to making one beat, saving to floppy and moving on.

Orrrrr I go buy a 2500


I make 1-5 beats on a floppy at a time, I like that way of making music. Allows me to focus easily. Also it's common to get a disk read error, I mean how big of a deal is it to pop the disk out real fast and put it back in. All that's happening is the disk fails to mount properly in the machine, it's decades old hardware so no biggie no corruption of the disk or drive at all either. I feel like I can avoid disk errors by turning the machine on without the boot disk IMO. Also how you really gonna complain when your coming off zips, the worst of them all! :-D

Never lost a sound, sequence, or program by corrupted floppy. Never had file loading error or crash from the floppy. I've tried all the storage mediums on my classic, floppy is by far my personal favorite.
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Re: GIVE UP?

By mr_debauch Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:52 pm
m56p87 wrote:
Never lost a sound, sequence, or program by corrupted floppy. Never had file loading error or crash from the floppy. I've tried all the storage mediums on my classic, floppy is by far my personal favorite.


I'm going to have to agree... one other major tip for floppies in the classic is eject the floppy when not saving/loading.. just pop it out or leave it there not fully pushed in. After a while with the floppy sitting in the drive it starts spinning and you hear a bit of sound.... this sound usually means the data is now ****.

Re: GIVE UP?

By Knobs Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:32 pm
^^^^ ahh yes, I have heard that sound from leaving disks in too long.

With everything said I think I'm going to leave the Zip and start using floppies. I have tried saving beats to floppies in the past and I remember a common issue. When saving, I would quite often get "disk is full insert new disk"...i would insert new disk and the same thing would pop up. I'll give it another shot and see how it goes. I'll update.

Thanks again everyone.
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Re: GIVE UP?

By mr_debauch Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:38 pm
Knobs wrote:^^^^ ahh yes, I have heard that sound from leaving disks in too long.

With everything said I think I'm going to leave the Zip and start using floppies. I have tried saving beats to floppies in the past and I remember a common issue. When saving, I would quite often get "disk is full insert new disk"...i would insert new disk and the same thing would pop up. I'll give it another shot and see how it goes. I'll update.

Thanks again everyone.


for sure... the disk full thing can be prevented...

there are many tricks, such as sampling everything in mono. cutting micro fragments off samples.... finding spots in the sample you can cut away...

Re: GIVE UP?

By m56p87 Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:36 pm
mr_debauch wrote:
Knobs wrote:^^^^ ahh yes, I have heard that sound from leaving disks in too long.

With everything said I think I'm going to leave the Zip and start using floppies. I have tried saving beats to floppies in the past and I remember a common issue. When saving, I would quite often get "disk is full insert new disk"...i would insert new disk and the same thing would pop up. I'll give it another shot and see how it goes. I'll update.

Thanks again everyone.


for sure... the disk full thing can be prevented...

there are many tricks, such as sampling everything in mono. cutting micro fragments off samples.... finding spots in the sample you can cut away...


Also if you want not loose any data, or make huge programs you can just save across disks. Although I hate having to use another disk just to save like 2 sounds so I usually will tweak until it fits.
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Re: GIVE UP?

By mr_debauch Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:17 pm
yeah^^ agreed...

when you are saving all programs and sounds... it might say "not enough space" or something like that in a window... well pop out that floppy and put a new one in.. click the save F-key button.. it will continue onto the second disk.... 3rd... etc.. when loading, load the first, then it will ask for the second... click load on the f key .. etc.
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