Another Mac vs. PC thread...but wait, check this out!

Read an article that made some sense to me...it stated that mac's are no doubt good for what they do, but pc's can be just as reliable for those who think they can break that barrier of "I've figured out what works to make a pc as stable as anything else out here".

Yes, I can agree that a very limited number of parts will help to achieve this, but which parts are these? To my knowledge, I take it that the components used to build a hackintosh (pc running mac os) would be the same parts that would grant a stable pc environment as well.

Any thoughts?

while quality components are important in building durable and reliabable system, it's all nothing but a pile of hardware without end user interface {operating system}

i've had success runnning on windows machine in the past, but I had to be extra cautious with it where as on mac it just works.

IMO reason behind building hackintosh is not the components that make up the system, but the operating system they function under

these days when I think windows I think android, operating system needs twice the hardware power to run as efficient as iOS device with less powerful hardware.

Never going back to Win, word is bond son...

clint246clint wrote:Never going back to Win, word is bond son...

Amen to that, at least not for stuff that matters like audio or video work.

to put things into perispective from factory mac OSx comes with iMovie iPhoto and Garageband at no extra charge, while not professional grade applications they get the job done...on windows what do you get from factory, MSWord?, paint? voice recorder ?

konc3pt wrote:on windows what do you get from factory, MSWord?, paint? voice recorder ?

yeah on windows 95... O.o


you know what the problem is with buying an apple computer over any PC? you have to buy an apple computer... then you have to use an apple computer.

I was born and raised a pc user and didnt start messing with apple computers until after I got into beat makn. I do agree about them being over-priced or behind in terms of latest hardware. but it just works, there's nothing you gotta do to it to function like it should. I never formatted once on OSX. I didnt realize how hard I got hooked on using OSX for music until I gave my mac away...I literally stopped makn beats until I got another mac even tho I had a powerhouse pc sitting under the desk

konc3pt wrote:I was born and raised a pc user and didnt start messing with apple computers until after I got into beat makn. I do agree about them being over-priced or behind in terms of latest hardware. but it just works, there's nothing you gotta do to it to function like it should. I never formatted once on OSX. I didnt realize how hard I got hooked on using OSX for music until I gave my mac away...I literally stopped makn beats until I got another mac even tho I had a powerhouse pc sitting under the desk

lol, the funny thing is... my experience sounds completely inverted from that... I started on apple computers... apple ii, apple LC series, power mac, imac, etc... but got into PCs around the p1-p2 era (still using macs at the same time) but I wound up migrating to pc because all the best software was pc (not limited to windows... pc had several platforms at the time and it still does)

I never formatted once on vista, and this machine has been turned on since 2007 or 2008 or so... powered off maybe 20 times, restarted now and then. It just works... dont ask me why, I mean it's vista... I just dont know what issues people were having because I just didn't get them. My girlfriend has a dual core with vista and that thing went to sh!t... I had a p3 with xp sp2 (multi boot with fedora, server 2003, and win nt workstation) that smoked that dual core. Windows takes more thought to keep it running smooth.... I guess. I just am not a fan of macs, it feels like i'm running a linux/windows hybrid with boxing gloves on.

if you cant plug a molex connector without a minimum wage "genius" to assist you, then get a mac....


with a pc, you have to know about the components... with a mac you just have to know the logo... and ignore the pricepoint...


pcs werent originally GUI based OSs. macs always were i believe... or from a much earlier date anyway... this still has some impact on those who arent as focused on the technology they use as much as what they use it for...


mac niccaz aint worried about the benchmarks id assume...

PCs are great, but the ones made by Toshiba. I bought one of the first Satellite models back in 2002, only crashed once due to the battery overcharged, but I had video games, music apps and video apps running on it on XP, and never lagged once. Now, I got a new Satellite on Windows 7 and I'm once again loading up games and video programs without an issue. Just my experience. Btw, the old Satelllite never went on the net, I would just burn data from it and pass it to a eMachines server, and that crashed heavily. eMachines suck duck carcuss!

funny thing is when you look at the actual parts in many apple products you notice they often use cheap ass parts.

I use a hackintosh as well as an Apple MBP 15".
I was always a PC guy mainly because I built my own out of quality components and the Apple price premium is a joke.

My £800 2008-built hackintosh is still as fast as a 2011 iMac, lol! That is how much behind in price/performance Apple are.

I found that I loved OSX so much that then I bought a macbook pro.
After waiting 6 months for the new iMac, I'm very disappointed in it - 5400RPM hard drive?! non user-servicable for RAM or HD exchange, i5 processor?! For a £1100 machine! The definition of form over function.
The dumbing-down of technology for the masses is strong within Apple. Where's the damn ridiculousy-priced Mac Pro f.e.?

I also fail to see how my 5 hard drives of data would fit neatly into an iMac situation.
I guess I'll just build another hackintosh when I require more speed (maybe in a couple of years).

konc3pt wrote:
IMO reason behind building hackintosh is not the components that make up the system, but the operating system they function under

i think you pretty much nailed it here.

im no blind apple fanboy, but i think alot of people that have problems with PCs are because they dont know how to properly manage their PCs, with an apple it takes far less "management" to keep it running smoothly. that has been my experience anyway.

i use my apple as an everything computer and also do all my audio on it, it runs great. thats why i love my mac.
i wouldnt dream of using my audio pc as an everything computer, every time i have in the past, it ends up getting slower and slower over time, but thats partly because i used to not know so much about how to manage my pc and remove bloatware ect.

if you know how to do all that stuff, your pc can run just fine for years, but i feel like most people just getting into music production wonder why their fl studio/cubase/nuendo isnt running that well. well its probably because they havent taken care of their computer over the years.

i feel like apples require less of the upkeep that pcs do, but pcs can be great audio computers if you know what your doing.

i for one wouldnt want to go back to pc for doing audio simply because i dont know enough about keeping it running smoothly.

Plus it looks like apple will be getting a crop of new users since microsoft decided to go the route of upgrading their os to cater more towards tablets and portable gadgets rather than fixing the issues with their current and even past op sys's.

Fuk dealing with this windows 8 bs, I'm going to upgrade my system to cater to dual boot so I can run osx and win xp 64.

I think win 8 will spell doom for microsoft. If it weren't for their stronghold in the commercial networking dept, they'd go down much faster because of user bailout.

It's all about how much you want to be a tech guy, while your initial goal was to just make music.

I mean, PC's can easily smoke any iMac or MBpro, but you need to be a PC wiz to keep them going on for long enough. On the other hand, you have underpowered, overpriced Mac's, who simply do their job, without any serious maintenance.

Focusing on music, and not having, in the meantime, to teach yourself half of an IT course, is priceless. That's why people still use Mac's over PC's for creative stuff.

Example:

With my pc I had to make sure I had turned on my interface before opening my webbrowser or music player in order to hear any audio.

As some of you may know, I also switched to apple last week. I am so not technical at all, I even had problems finding the correct firewire cable to connect my mac with my interface.

But I was just amazed by the ease of not having to install any drivers, or make sure my computer has recognized the interface before playing audio. I just plug and unplug while the music is playing and my mac just automatically switches the audio output.