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WHICH WOULD YOU CHOOSE FOR RECORDING MPC W 8 OUTS AND LATER WITH SYNTHS??

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By paulio Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:41 pm
BOTH OPTIONS ARE THE SAME PRICE AND WOULD ALLOW ME TO DO THE SAME TINGS
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By incurablebeatlust Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:43 pm
some may disagree but i say stay away from behringer. W/ that said i know nothing about those products you mentioned in particular. Prove me wrong but i think behringer is poo.
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By binger0 Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:45 pm
i have a ub2442fx and i like it. The headphones have a lil crackle comin out of the port but other then that it straigth.

By paulio Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:47 pm
have you had 1st hand experience of behringer products being $hit. there obviously not top of the range but they are certainly value for money, I've read good reviews for both these behringer units from soundonsound magazine.
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By incurablebeatlust Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:56 pm
im afraid that lesser quality materials are to blame for the value. wasn't it behringer who got sued for copying mackie designs? if youre gonna drop the cash stay off behringer ish...
wtf do i know ....

By ddot_SFV Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:09 pm
Avoid behringer if at all posible.

By Man VS Machine Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:51 pm
I co-sign... unless your going to house partys or somthing like that but for Pro recording Id say move on :!:

By MAD T Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:05 am
you get what you pay for with behringer. You got to look at your signal chain....with all that behringer in the middle, you sound will suck.
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By ieism Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:24 am
I don't really agree. Not all Behringer products sound bad. I was surprised the first time i heard their higher end mixer, they're not bad at all. I don't know about that A/D converter though.

I still suggest you go with the MOTU though. Here's why:

1. Great sound. Certainly better than the other option. Better converters and less jitter.
2. Metering on all your channels, not just a clipping led.
3. Easy to expand.
4. Less cable spaghetti, and you'll save yourself some money on cables too.

The only advantage i see with the behringer setup is that you have hardware faders and eq. But a lot of software eq sounds as good as hardware now and you can get a control surface with motorized faders for about $250 now anyway.

By djames Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:28 am
I seem to hear alot of negative talk about behringer, but I am using this exact setup and it is lovely. Going directly into NUENDO with 9 tracks of audio simultaneously. From what I gathered the UB series mixer is one of their nicer series. As a matter of fact I heard they were being sued by Mackie for the design if that tells you anything. Also as far as the ADA8000 goes Behringer or not it is still one of the hottest A/D converters on the market especially for only $200. Brand recognition goes along way but I would rather talk to someone with the products asked about not someone that had a bad experience in 1995, ya dig!
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By cyrus Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:09 am
ive come to the conclusion, that i hate cables. So i would pick the motu.

But I also go to a studio where he uses nuendo, and a motu, and shit is hot! check my link to listen to a track recorded there.

The track is "solve this"

BTW. Its not been mixed at all, or mastered, its straight recorded.

peace
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By young_keyz Thu Nov 11, 2004 7:46 am
I have the motu 828 mk2 with nuendo and im planning to by the Behringer ADA8000 so that i can add a extra 8 channels of adat to myset and that will give me a total of 18 inputs(8 analog,2 mic pre amps and 8 channels of adat). Now i can just have all my gear extra outs all connected to my motu 828 and not have to worry about switch up wires. I did my research plus talk to Djames about it and everything will be a go.

By arctec Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:30 pm
I have the motu and could not be happier. It sounds great. It's got amazingly flexible routing possibilities and it never lets me down.

I agree with previous post - go for the motu, and then if yo uneed more converters in the future, maybe cop the behringer AD, but I would not really on it for my most precious sound sources.

(828 mk11 plus DP4.5 = sublime)

By paulio Sat Nov 13, 2004 3:45 pm
Thanks for all the feedback, Behringer seem to have gotten a bad rep for quality but from what I've heard there newer stuff is the best option for a budget mixer, I've heard no bad things about the UB range. But I know the 828 will be quality too, the reason I want a mixer is so that I can have all my stuff hooked up to it so I can moniter through my monitors which I have had for a while but are still in storage, Just for making beats, I don't need to monitor 8 different channels, I need something versatile, so I can make rough beats and be able to make high quality recordings on multiple tracks, a system that I don't need to keep swapping cables around all the time like now. I could just get a little UB for just monitoring combined with the 828.

anyway, thanks again for your opinions :wink: