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By KappNeffect Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:21 am
Update for you all...

Apple shoots down rumor about pro audio team "decimation"


Apple officially shot down a rumor about the demise of its internal pro audio group in a response to a concerned user. Music marketing head Xander Soren responded to an e-mail on Monday, originally sent to Apple CEO Tim Cook, saying the pro audio team is safe and sound, according to a copy seen by MacRumors. Soren added the team is "hard at work" on the next version of Logic Pro.

Apple's commitment to its pro users has been increasingly called into question since the release of Final Cut Pro X in mid-2011. Numerous users of Apple's previous versions of Final Cut Pro were put off by the changes and perplexed by the number of useful features seemingly dropped from the new release. Combined with Apple's lengthy gap between major Mac Pro hardware releases, pro users have begun to loudly voice their concerns about Apple's commitment to their sliver of the market.

This sentiment, no doubt, is what fed a recent rumor claiming Apple's pro audio team had been "decimated," according to sources speaking to Pro Tools Expert. The sources claimed Apple's European team was down to two employees with no replacements in sight, and that the "next big audio application from Apple will be for the iPad."

But Apple was apparently having none of it. Like Cook's rebuttal to an e-mail inquiry about the death of the Mac Pro, Soren responded to a user's e-mail about the future of the pro audio group. "As the lead for our music creation apps, I always want to hear what our users are thinking," Soren wrote. "I want to assure you the team is still in place and hard at work on the next version of Logic Pro."

As noted by MacRumors, the last major Logic Pro release came in mid-2009. The app and its live-performance companion MainStage 2 were moved to the Mac App Store last year, while Logic Express and Soundtrack Pro were left behind. Still, the software was otherwise left untouched. Perhaps it's time for that long-rumored Logic X to make an appearance?
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By JUKE 179r Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:28 pm
Thanks for the info Kapp.
By Clint Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:00 pm
Hurry up with the X.
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By psr Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:16 am
I've used Logic ever since it was still a PC app by Emagic. Thats the primary reason I bought a mac. When there was no more PC support and a year so so had gone by with things not working as well. I switched over plus all the improvements that Apple made I couldnt refuse. I really hope they dont jack us around like FCP X users. Otherwise I will finally move on to something else.
By Undertow Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:47 am
While there are still gremlins in Logic, the code isn't legacy code. That means that it will probably not require a complete rewrite like Final Cut Pro X needed. Logic 9 works on even the latest versions of OS X so hopefully that's a good omen that it won't end up like Final Cut Pro X did. However, most of the criticisms about Final Cut Pro X aren't even applicable anymore. It's mostly just old complaints that people still repeat verbatim. A lot of it has been improved, in my opinion. Some, not so much but still.

As long as they give me 4 things, I won't completely ignore this update.

  • Better inline/time-line audio editing.
  • Tangible benefits from the Redmatica acquisition, even if in the form of a redesigned EXS24.
  • A real stereo panner. **** the obligatory Direction Mixer.
  • Better MIDI implementation in the AU spec.

If at least three of those aren't in the update, I'll stick with Logic 9 and just update my other software instead. It wouldn't hurt to have some of the automation perks of Cubase/Nuendo and PTHD, plug-in sandboxing like Bitwig and Reason, or some of the interesting features people are showing me in Studio One either—but these aren't dire, to me. I'm sure there will also be a cacophony of new features though. Logic isn't currently my main DAW but if they get this version right, we'll see. It should be interesting to see what happens next year with DAWs. :)
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By psr Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:24 am
Undertow wrote:[*] Tangible benefits from the Redmatica acquisition, even if in the form of a redesigned EXS24.


good good point. exs24 is the instrument that I've used the most. Although its a good instrument it could use a kick in the ass for ease of use. setting up and saving a instrument with samples and editing all params could be a bit more simple. in relation to other sampler instruments its sort of archaic. it could use more modern synth manipulation features.
By Undertow Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:58 pm
For sure. Tighter integration would be welcomed. I like how tightly integrated Live's sampling devices are with it and also add-ons like Transfuser in Pro Tools with all of their quick drag-and-drop goodness. Hopefully we'll see some of that in addition to some of the carry over from Redmatica's product line. Imagine being able to build multi-sample instruments quickly and easily right in EXS24. :-D
By séance Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:49 am
clint246clint wrote:Hurry up with the X.
By Clint Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:03 am
psr wrote:exs24...Although its a good instrument it could use a kick in the ass for ease of use. setting up and saving a instrument with samples and editing all params could be a bit more simple. in relation to other sampler instruments its sort of archaic. it could use more modern synth manipulation features.


I love it and hate it in equal measures, needs a total revamp which is long overdue.
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By damien907 Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:21 am
good to hear the audio team is still there, i remember reading that it was being cut awhile ago and that would have sucked.

ill stick with logic 8 though, logic x probaly wont even run on my 10.5.8 machine.
By Clint Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:38 pm
How long has Logic Studio/ Pro 9 been out?

New Reason, new Cubase, new Pro Tools, new Reaper, new Live...

Where is the X? App Store only too...BS
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By Blue Haze Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:15 am
Pro Tools 11 already and no new Logic X news almost 4 years or more I think what is Apple doing. I still get the job done in Logic 9 but this is a hella of a wait. :mrgreen:
By m56p87 Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:51 pm
helios wrote:I'm only a casual Logic user but it's going to be interesting to see what happens. I hope they don't upset people like they did with FCP X.


I was in film shool around when this happened, **** heartbreaking. From the look of it they plan todo the same to Logic..... A full lobotomy!
By Undertow Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:33 pm
Add improved metering to my list. It's always been a bit drab but now looking at the metering in other DAWs like PT11, Cubase 7, Studio-One, Reaper, et al, it really makes it apparent that Logic's metering could use a bit of an update. The scale visibility and ballistics could both use a reworking, in my opinion.

In this elapse of time they could potentially have come up with some quite progressive features. It's left to be seen.