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By tapedeck Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:47 pm
vinyl_junkie_1620 wrote:JJ OS has been tempting me to the dark side for a long long time but the way I think of it is.. Essentially you are still just inputting notes you play into a sequencer, you input whack ish, whack ish comes out... Input something good into it, good ish comes out.

what i like about what i've tried on jj is the shear amount of features coupled with the intelligent design of it all.

i mean it does everything you've ever heard of in a sampler, then some.
sequencer as well is all the intuitiveness of a classic mpc sequencer (minus the inverted track mute screen from 2kxl at least that drives me crazy), plus all these modern features no other sequencer does.

as far as bulk number of 'features' goes it has a whole lot, but even more importantly, as far as actually making all that power usable, it seems to have the design aspect of it covered as well.
:mrgreen:
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By vinyl_junkie_1620 Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:58 pm
tapedeck wrote:
vinyl_junkie_1620 wrote:JJ OS has been tempting me to the dark side for a long long time but the way I think of it is.. Essentially you are still just inputting notes you play into a sequencer, you input whack ish, whack ish comes out... Input something good into it, good ish comes out.

what i like about what i've tried on jj is the shear amount of features coupled with the intelligent design of it all.

i mean it does everything you've ever heard of in a sampler, then some.
sequencer as well is all the intuitiveness of a classic mpc sequencer (minus the inverted track mute screen from 2kxl at least that drives me crazy), plus all these modern features no other sequencer does.

as far as bulk number of 'features' goes it has a whole lot, but even more importantly, as far as actually making all that power usable, it seems to have the design aspect of it covered as well.
:mrgreen:


Absolutely, some one I know is a big fan of JJ and pretty much says the same thing although I've not tried it yet.
I'm sure I'd like it but I just don't fancy changing my hardware not yet any way. What I have at the moment seems to be working for me so fear of change and all that bs lol
The 1k with JJ looks like a pretty deadly combination especially for live as the 1k is very small and portable
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By dabmeister Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:44 pm
Coz wrote:The stuff you can't do with the 4K ain't worth doing. The fundamentals are all solid - 24/96 sound quality, 64 note polyphony, 512MB ram, high resolution sequencer, loads of filters, computer integration, keygroups etc.


Lampdog wrote:4k is my fav.
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By jibber Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:50 pm
I've owned several MPC's so far... 500, 2500, 2000XL and 60 MK I.

I've kept the 500, 2000XL and the 60.

It's hard to pick a favorite, but if i could only keep one of them, it would be the MPC60 i think.

The 500 is great for its portability and fun factor (with the 500 you often approach making beats a little more light hearted and in a "let's have fun" way (which can benefit the music), the 500 also sounds pretty damn good.

The 2000XL has great pads (some say they are the best :)) and a very nice workflow (jog wheel is great), unfortunately not the best sound.

The 60 wins for me because of how well built the machine feels (all my MPC's have/had bad functioning buttons and stuff, except the 60, which is the oldest...). It wins because of the sound (it can sound thin or clean as well, but once you have something nice... mmmhh yeah!). With the 3.10 OS the balance between limitations and features is just right and the workflow is very nice. It's a winner for me because it's a solid and great sounding MPC that's fun to use.

I like simple beats however... if my work would be more complex, i think i'd gravitate towards something like a 2500 with JJOS... :wink:
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By vinyl_junkie_1620 Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:19 am
Funny you say about the pads, I liked the pads on the 60 and 3000 more than the XL.
I wouldn't say better just a different kind of feel.
The number key pad on the one I had though needed to be pressed extra hard on certain keys.

I loved having the 60 round mine. When my mate was moving house I looked after it for roughly 2-3 months along with some of his other gear and I really got into it. Found it strange adjusting back to my workhorse XL after totally immersing myself in the 60.

At the time it didn't have the RAM expansion but it did have the latest 3.10 OS and it really taught me to be more selective with the samples to get better results and cos the lack of pad mute it taught me to work on my arrangements better, things I took back over to the XL when I gave the 60 back :-)

When I worked on the 60 the stuff I did always ended up totally different to what I'd usually do, that machine I could bang sample based deep house tracks until the cows come home on lol
Where's my other productions I'm not that sample based.

Also good comment about the simple beats, I'd say my stuff is quite simple so the I'm quite happy with the 60 and XL sequencers. If I wanted better sampling features I have a 3200XL, 2800 and EPS-16+ :-D

To end it... MPC-60 period http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMWqvYI7 ... Q&index=20

Current MPC-2000XL period http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYevV1C3 ... ZQ&index=1
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By sirparksalot Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:48 am
I have owned the 1000, 2500, 2000xl, 3000, and 4000. I still own the 3000 and 4000. The 4000 is what I use the majority of the time. Why? Because I have put a ton of time into it, and know it like the back of my hand. I'm just comfortable on it. With that being said.....which one would I choose if I could only have one MPC?

The 3000.

Why?

Two reasons really, and they are quite simple. Feel, and straight forwardness. I just simply enjoy working on the 3000 more than any mpc I have used. It makes even my 4000 feel a bit cheap. Chopping is slower, you have less options.....BUT....it's easy and fun to just sit down and chop records with it. It takes a lot longer for me to make a beat on it(right now), but the user experience is great. For these reasons I will never sell either one.....and enjoy using both for different things.
By jimmie Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:04 am
mpc2500 with JJOSXL and an S950 is damn fine. I haven't tried any other mpc's so...
I've been wanting a 3000 and 4000 to try, but they aren't exactly cheap.. but I'm very happy with the sound of the S950 and the power of JJOS. I'm happy with the sound of the 2500 too - you can push the 2500 sound engine and it does knock.

My 2500 is the heart of my studio and sequences everything (analogue synths, digi synths, samplers, drum machines, etc). JJOS brings a lot to the table. It definitely isn't just about putting samples in and getting them out... JJOS bring a whole new world of functionality that I use every single day.
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By vinyl_junkie_1620 Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:41 pm
jibber wrote:I've kept the 500, 2000XL and the 60.


Ok a bit off topic but is the 500 able to load song files and pgm's from the MPC-2000XL?

I've been considering doing some live stuff and the 500 seems to really fit the bill, cheap and very small/light.
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By Metatron72 Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:44 pm
vinyl_junkie_1620 wrote:
jibber wrote:I've kept the 500, 2000XL and the 60.


Ok a bit off topic but is the 500 able to load song files and pgm's from the MPC-2000XL?

I've been considering doing some live stuff and the 500 seems to really fit the bill, cheap and very small/light.


MPC2000/2000XL SEQ (saved as MID file only), WAV, SND, PGM (Most parameters of PGM file can be loaded.)

Maybe Ill Green or somebody can chime in on how that goes in actual usage.
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By konc3pt Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:55 pm
only had 1k, 2.5 and 4k but I like all mpcs, ended up sticking with 2.5k only for JJ, if it wasnt for him I would be on 4k...at some point plan on buying every mpc model and doing mpc trophy wall
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By Coz Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:04 pm
Nym wrote:(except the 4000 but even that lacks some critical functions of jjos)



True.

Quantize Strength is a sad loss for me, but the lord giveth and the lord taketh away... or something like that. :mrgreen:
By Em.p.cee.j Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:29 pm
I own a 2000, 60 mk1, and 4000. I've also had a 60 mk2 and 2000xl. The 4000 easily wins as my favorite. I have a few S-series samplers and they're uncomfortable to program. The 4000 put their features and then some in a desktop unit with a big ass screen. And I like the way it handles track muting (if the pad is set to "as sampled", it mutes the track immediately instead of waiting for the sequences note off command).

The original 2000 comes in second place. It was my workhorse for 14 years. I know it inside and out and the pads are the best I've ever used for drumming.
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By drukqs2369 Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:54 am
i had a 2000xl & i sold it to a friend

if i had spare money i'd buy it back, just to own it really

if i could produce full time it'd be cool if i could have an mpc / turntable set up just to mess around with, nothing serious cause i find the whole process too slow & i currently don't have the time for that

having to work sucks, i wish i could get paid to make music
By dreadnutz Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:46 pm
had every mpc expect the original 2000, now i have the 1k original, 25k JJOSXL, 3k, 2kxl.

my main workhorse is the 25k with jjos, where i go nuts with chopping, building progs and do stuff as far as i can without using a computer (and this goes very far :-D )... but i always feel there is something missing on my stuff and i don`t have the feel from a drummachine (more like a daw).

this is the sh!t where the 3000 shines: it always does something magic (i know it sounds stupid..) to the drums and i couldn`t recreate it with any other mpc expect the 60. strange, but true. i am doing mostly breaks stuff with a lot of groove and ghostnotes going on, and for this style the 3k fits perfectly. sequencing, sound and feel is also fantastic. sit`s very well in the mix.
downside is that chopping is a nightmare and i only have a floppy (till i get the cf-cardreader) so i am doing only drums on it.

the 2kxl is in between them: feels like a real drummachine and is easy to use. mostly use it for classic hiphop style. sounds a bit thin but has character (though it`s hard to mix)

all in all the 3k wins for me, cause it`s the king of drummachines (have also a sp1200 and a studio440, though i prefer the 3k), but i wouldn`t sell any of them cause each has it own personality and it depends on my mood which one i use... and in these days of cheap, plastic (wannabe)drummachines with more bugs than buttons i know what i have :wink: