Technique for that perfect 1,2,3,4 bar sample ya want

Want to make a sample that is looped to exactly one or two BARS?? yeah ya probably do at one stage, and so maybe wonder what is a quick and easy way to do it.
Well this is with JJOSXL but its easy and only takes a second to do to.
OK so I do not use this technique much myself, but since I don't not see anyone talking bout it before I will post this walkthrough for that perfect bar length sample. You might facepalm yourself, or you might know already but its good to share, and any one else should let me know if they cant do it, or done it before.

ok so it can be done with anything sound wise. So it can be done with a sequence or a track, or playing live into MPC with any instrument. synth, guitar, scratchin on the ones and twos, MCing bout crime ya did, anything....... Ya just gotta plug it in to the MPC so ya can sample it, but you should know that bit already. But you can still load a sample into it via USB to.
Anyways its all about mixdown and takes, in song mode.
1. Choose the length of bars you want to make the sample you want.
2. Make blank sequence of that length.
3. make song with that blank sequence
4. hit F3 for mix down
5. record your take and play instrument
6. go to trim and revel in the glory of your loop that is exactly 1 bar or whatever you chose. No it dont do half a bar. chop in to 2 chops for that.

yeah easy, but very effective. I have used this with sequences I made as well as the blank ones to capture the exact bar length for the ease of use. Of course your set at that BPM you chose unless you chop or patch phrase, pitch bend ect.

or you could just record on an audio track, if you're sampling an external source. (or the internal out, I'd assume the audio tracks can do that, I've never tried.)

Sorry sciguy, but you have assumed wrongly. Maybe try before posting next time
You can do this with the looper to but i prefer mix down.

so, you bounce a blank song mode file, and then play blank song mode file?


4. hit F3 for mix down
5. record your take and play instrument

record what take?

I think this is a bit unclear blip......VIDEO!

Since every musician worth their salt should be able to play along to a metronome/drums I don't really understand why this is necessary.

But I'm thinking what you're saying is if you want to know how long your part should be to fit into two bars you can make a blank WAV of the exact right length by mixing down and then matching to that, am I right?

Alternatively, you could do 32/BPM * 60 = length of 2 bars in seconds.

For live instruments, if I want a two-bar loop I set the MPC to loop for 4 bars and play into one of the audio tracks. Then I choose the first two bars or the second two and trim accordingly, depending on which sounds better. If I make a mistake and both sound shit, I redo.

Superpowerface wrote:Since every musician worth their salt should be able to play along to a metronome/drums I don't really understand why this is necessary.

Agreed.

Superpowerface wrote:But I'm thinking what you're saying is if you want to know how long your part should be to fit into two bars you can make a blank WAV of the exact right length by mixing down and then matching to that, am I right?

No.
Not a blank wave. Just exactly a certain bar length sample of your choosing at that bpm.

Superpowerface wrote:For live instruments, if I want a two-bar loop I set the MPC to loop for 4 bars and play into one of the audio tracks. Then I choose the first two bars or the second two and trim accordingly, depending on which sounds better. If I make a mistake and both sound shit, I redo.

for sure.

And for peeping tom...... just try it first and you will understand that the 'take' is just the default name of the sample taken. And of course it is exactly the length of bars chosen.
I put this up cos I have seen a few people ask about how to do exactly a bar or two sample wise. Here and other places.

Maybe im tired but as I read that, I think if I just start from point 5. I will get exact same result as You from point 1. coz you mention "TAKE" and it means you recoding thru audiotrack, and this is what audiotracks do anyway (not very accurate coz the sample has to be sequenced to get perfect loop, or played with audiotrack which is basicaly same thing as sequencing)

I don't understand why you don't just use an AUDIO track with loop turned on for the number of bars you want to record for.

You can record from external audio (Input: ANALOG or Input: DIGITAL) or internal playback sounds (Input: MAIN OUT).

yeh i figured it was to get the exact numerical values for bars/

cheers Blip, not something i do with loops, but something that is nice to know.

Im not sure why people use the audio recorder for loops anyway, i mean, stick your loop on a pad and have it mute itself, then just get your timing / tempo right - or am i missing something magical here?



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