WELL, IT'S OFFICIAL

Well, I have to check out the sound of the microcon, because specs mean shyt if the actual tone of the machine needs work to get it right.

I would compare the micro korg to the juno 106 in that it just sounds good on any sound, and it is not to deep modulation wise, so it is a synth of the people rather than of the programmers. A dignified roll.

The micron would suffer from the limited UI, (a TB 303 has more knobs than it) but I'll have to check it out. In capable hands it might be good, but many times people tend to let the dust play the synths that have narrow UI's, or just use the presets. Like DX-7s.

but if you're up for it, two filters in series is very nice.

all the micro korg is, is a lesser vers of the ms2000. i have all the micro korg patches on sysex. I think its cool but i think the micron is shittin on it. the ms2000/microkorg is a bit older and thouse drawbacks are a pain in the ass. I mean u can make good pads leads and bass with one but if i had to go buy a synth right now i would def look into a micron. I should start makin beats with presets off my korg and post em in the 2000 section casue im that cool.

H8r

MS2000 can't touch the sound quality of the microkorg, it lacks something in the definition. My buddy at Korg told me they have the same DSP chip and power. The fact that the micro is cut down feature wise means that that power goes to the sound rather than polyphony or multitimbrality, it is the same on the Nord Modular, it is about the allocation of limited resources. The NM cn make one sick mono patch, and a 4 poly part that is about a quarter as sick, if you are using 100% of the power. I've had them side by side and the sound of the micro wins. But then again I hear stuff that a lot of other people don't hear, even professional engineers. It takes them a while to hear it, particularly high frequency weirdness like all the nords have that everybody said I was crazy, but years later they came to the same conclusion.

then again, I don't go to the range without hearing protection ;p

(that was for the preset jab)

woah sorry for offendin ur lil buddy. But seriously arent they the same engine? i have the sys ex for the micro and it sounds like the same thing. Im not a hating but there was a question of the micro vs. the micron and i think the micron, from what i have heard, is a better machine. I have demoed both and the micro seems like a little toy.

oh and the preset jab was due to this dude spammin the wrong forums with his music and not givin any feedback on anyone elses beats which i think is wack. u dont see cats postin beats like that in all the forums. Hes not even using his 60 as a sampler so what makes that special. call it hate or whatever i just think its a dick thing for the other members. cats give him mad feedback but none from him.

haha. oh and el didnt u say u hated on just blaze for using presets but i got that rock the bells synth he used on my ms2000. it sounds like a preset to me i guess some people are allowed to do that and some arent.

look at me all double postin and ish

Heh, Andreas has posted his beats on the 60 forum since he came on here, the people here don't seem to mind. I sure don't. This is a different forum than the rest of the place, low traffic, few newb's, so we can tolerate a 60 beat once in a while, especially when everybody here seems to love hearing them. People always find his stuff interesting, and he always comes off humble and takes criticism well, hence the feedback. I rarely check other people's beats, cuz who am I to say how close to their goal they are?

It wasn't just blaze that I was insulting, it was the editors of scratch magazine that said JB wasn't gonna tell you what presets to use. Just was tweaking the synths in the article, even using the ribbon on the Andromeda, so it is in no way against him, just scratch magazine and the attitude they had in making that statement.

The MS2000 and the Micro are based on the same technology, it's a DSP chip, the same chip. The differences are the algorhythms, if you have more features, the DSP is divided among them, the less features you have, the more DSP you can use for the things you do have. So the micro isn't just a cut down ms2k, it uses all the power of the ms2k for just one voice, I would call it concentrated. I was never impressed by the sound of the MS, I have a lot of experience with analog so when digital tries to emulate analog I listen to the character of the synth. The MS sounds somewhat thin and has that slight digital harshness. The Micro did not have this at all, so I presume a lot of that extra DSP power went into smoothing algorhythms and paid off in spades soundwise.

As for the micron, sure, it has all the features of the Ion, but with 3 knobs, a selector knob and a handful of buttons, editing it will be like painting your whole house through the mailslot. Using a computer editor would solve this, but I hate computer editing for hardware synths, thats a pet peeve of mine. Not that the micro korg interface is winning awards, but it is practical for the application.

This is Andreas's first synth (unless he's got more in his closet than he admits) and I think it is perfect for his needs, most importantly, it sounds great (yes I said it). He is learning about analog synthesis, and is testing out his new toy. Using presets in songs is not a crime, but to buy a synth as a preset box, and get a new one when you tire of the sounds, rather than learn the synth and program it was the general message from scratch, and one I disagree with.

This is not and should not be about snobbery, but a love for the craft. I could snob you all off because I've built my own analog synths (no not Paia and you guys are using all this store bought off the shelf stuff, but it's not about that.

I was joking about the hater thing, hence the wink

If you want his opinion, ask for it.

Damn bing, we all fighting on here and shit, you a cool dude man, I got no problems with you at all, I hope you know this is just friendly discussion and I'm not offended or anything.

oh homes im not fighting. I respect what ur sayin. And yes the microkorg is a fine synth. I have its big bro and im not complaing. Im just sayin from what i heard when i was at GC i thought the micron was much richer and phatter then the micro korg. And andreas im not tryin to beef with u. I just noticed u post alot of beats and recieve alot of feedback. I just think its kinda of a dick thing to not check out someones music when they critic urs. Theres no beef though. Do what u gotta do. I just make it a point to check out and give my honest opinion on cats music when they take the time and listen to mines.