Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
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By denzekiel Sun Nov 14, 2004 12:00 am
I like the Track Mute screen on the 2000, 1000 etc. This is the only thing I really miss on the 3000. Is there a trick to doing this on the 3000?
Thanks Peace

By elmacaco Sun Nov 14, 2004 1:01 am
Not really, I have as much fun in song mode as I have on various track mute screens, but then again, I have a lot of tracks to keep tabs on, so the details and the time to see them helps me. It would be cool, the only thing I could think of is a computer sequencer that has the pads mapped to mute channels. pretty easy to do with a transformer, but no where near as practical.-------
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By denzekiel Sun Nov 14, 2004 5:19 pm
so you copy to a new sequence and just erase certain parts and then chain them together in song mode? What about for live performance? I guess a computer sequencer is the only way in that case....

By elmacaco Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:07 pm
Nah, I don't erase them, I just turn the tracks off.

I don't play out live, especially with the 60, I got to many wires to unplug. And if the shows I've seen are any indication, live mpc stuff is usually not worth taking it out. If you just DJ'd very well the masses would be happier, the MPC only pleases gear spotters and impresses the feeble minded over the music.

Support your local turntable.

I have played some of my sequences 'live' in the studio for friends by using the track on off buttons and scrolling quickly to what I want, I am usually pretty organized and I know what is where, so even on a fast 2 bar loop I can get there fast. For live I would have a few muted sets of the same sequence for the main backbone, then have the last section of tracks the parts I want to throw in, or just know the sequence well so you can mute the drums or whatever on the fly, my drums are usually spread over tracks, so if I have to mute more than one at a time I'd make a copy with it and just punch to that sequence.

Definately not as elegant as the track mute screen, especially since you can record the mutes, (very nice) but I don't miss it, because when I want to get down like that, I turn to the mixer, dub style.

maybe get a cheap 2000 for live? from what I hear, I'm not sure you can trust the 1000 live as of yet.
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By denzekiel Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:24 am
Unfortunately I'm not much of a dJ but I thought it might be more interesting to do the beats live instead of just popping in a cd like a lot of hip hop acts do. I had a 1000 and it constantly dropped samples at random so I copped the 3000 for its reliability. You can't record mutes on the 1000 or 2000 either. I think the 4000 does that. Mostly I want to mute things on the fly for the creative feel in the studio ie dropping a snare here, sample there, etc. but I guess I can do that with a little practice on the 3000. Thanks Peace
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By DOVESKI Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:49 am
elmacaco wrote:I have played some of my sequences 'live' in the studio for friends by using the track on off buttons and scrolling quickly to what I want, I am usually pretty organized and I know what is where, so even on a fast 2 bar loop I can get there fast.

By mpc3000 Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:21 am
" What about for live performance? "

I have been to several live performances where the MPC3000 was used live. It is not that hard and can be done.

About 8 years ago, before they were anyone, I saw the Chemical Brothers perform live with an MPC3000, Juno 106 and a few guitar pedals. There was also an SH-101, but I did not see them do anything with it. There were under 200 people there (no-names then). Unfortunately, once they got popeular their live sets went downhill, with more eye-candy and less 'playing'.

There was another guy from Australia that regularly took his MPC3000 out live and jacked the VGA out into large screen displays so the crowd could see what he was doing. I only remember his first name was Adam. Has a nice website with images of his performances. Wish I remembered the URL.

"What about for live performance? I guess a computer sequencer is the only way in that case"

Yuk. The very reason I own MPC's is so I can use them and not a computer, especially for live performances.

By elmacaco Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:13 am
"What about for live performance? I guess a computer sequencer is the only way in that case"

Yuk. The very reason I own MPC's is so I can use them and not a computer...[/quote]

AMEN!!!!
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By denzekiel Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:10 am
elmacaco wrote:"What about for live performance? I guess a computer sequencer is the only way in that case"

Yuk. The very reason I own MPC's is so I can use them and not a computer...


AMEN!!!![/quote]

I agree completely. I'm just trying to figure it out the best way before I actually attempt it live :? Anyway thanks for the tips.

By jrides Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:34 am
elmacaco wrote:Support your local turntable.


INDEED :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:

Too many pu$$y @ss wanna be emcees running around with no DJ in their set. Disgusting. If you have no wax involved in your set, odds are.... I wont pay to see you. Thats just the bottom line. A MPC in the set should just be another weapon at your "DJ's" disposal (mainly for playing new/unrecorded songs that I dont want to press to dubplate in my case). Vinyl forever dammit!!!!!! Efffffff a CDJ!!!!!!!! (That is until I have no other choice but to join the darkside....grrrrrrr) Vive la resistance!!!!!!

Peace to my DJ. Sharpe Precision.
LMAO....
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By denzekiel Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:53 pm
I'm not a DJ or an emcee but I make beats and I do use a lot of vinyl. I'm just not sure how to go about doing a live show at this point with my 3000, without the track mute feature. I guess I could use my mixer to mute indiv. tracks from the 8 outs if I have it set up right. I don't think I would try to take my laptop to a show since it is not that reliable sometimes.(imagine trying to reboot during a performance) :shock:

By mpc3000le Thu Nov 25, 2004 8:32 am
mpc3000 wrote:" What about for live performance? "

There was another guy from Australia that regularly took his MPC3000 out live and jacked the VGA out into large screen displays so the crowd could see what he was doing. I only remember his first name was Adam. Has a nice website with images of his performances. Wish I remembered the URL.



To correct this statement.

The "guy" as not from Australia.

He is ATOM HEART also known as LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS. ( real name UWE ).

The guy that toured him several times in Australia is ADAM FISCHER also known as ADAM8BIT.

The gigs were awesome.

I consider ATOM HEART/LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS as the best example of MPC3000 usage ever.

VERY CLEVER STUFF !!!

Seek out, enjoy and learn.

Rohan.

By mpc3000 Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:37 am
"He is ATOM HEART"

That's it. I thought he was in .au for some reason. It had been some time.

Are far as using the MPC3000 live, it can be done and has been done many, many times. There are several methods available to use it and the most popular is to to just mute/unmute tracks directly from the main screen. Use the Track-/+ button to change to the any track that you want to mute/unmute.

The MPC2000(XL) does not require you to be as intimitely familiar with your work as the MPC3000 since you can see the track names simultaneously. I guess you could say the MPC3000 forces you to practice a little more than the MPC2k series.

While the MPC300 does not allow you mute/unmute several tracks at once, there are things you can do:
1) Modify your style of playing as to not require you to mute/unmute several at once. I have done a lot of work that only needs one-change-at-a-time.
2) Modify your tracks to bundle samples together on the same track that need to be muted/unmuted at once. For these I also duplicate portions of tracks to other tracks which allow for transitions between lightly and heavily loaded tracks.
3) Use the mixer screen/outboard mixer.
4) Use program changes to switch kits on the fly.
5) Use duplicate programs along with program changes to switch between the same kit with different mixer settings.
6) Use mixer automation. You can put different volume settings in different tracks and mute/unmute these tracks to control mixer levels.
7) and so on....

There is a lot that can be done.