Very Audible Stepping in the sampler filters? *VIDEO inside

Whats up guys?

Has anybody noticed stepping in the sampler filters when tweaked live with the QLink knobs?

I'm building a bass library out of analog 1 cycle waveforms and I notice stepping when turning the knob for the cutoff. This happens with all the different models of filters available. It's like there isn't any controller smoothing.

I don't want to report this unless others are experiencing the same.

*edit okay definitely there, it only happens when turning the QLINK not when modulating with lfo's or with the filter envelope...

I'm going to report this on the akai forum.

+1 this on the official AKAI forum if you get it.

http://community.akaipro.com/akai_profe ... _smoothing

The filters in and of themselves sound very very good if it wasn't for this annoying stepping, it's not even subtle it's huge steps...

edit*

I made a youtube video showing how the envelopes don't cause it but moving with the QLINK and to a lesser extent the mouse causes popping and stepping sounds. You currently cannot sweep the filter without stepping.

Yes it happen with Qlink, I confirm Square mods as lil' Lags ;(

Did I mention it sounds completely horrible and is unusable for manual filter sweeps with the QLINKS? I can't believe nobody else has noticed this (besides comtox thanks. for confirming ).

bump

holy ****
that's the privilege of being a beta tester i guess

Could somebody please +1 this on Akai's forum? Nobody has responded at all about this and I feel like it will just get swept under the rug...

The link is in the first post, Thanks!

havent experienced this but i can see why your frustrated, probably a bug or something in the sw

I want to give this a bump in light of more information and in hopes that it might actually get acknowledged by somebody at AKAI.

I went through and tested this again and I can confirm that it happens with every filter type/model and it makes no difference if you have T.C. set to anything including off.

If you would like to try and re-create this, play any longer sustaining sound. Assign a filter to it in the sampler, while the sound is sustaining, turn up the resonance a ways and turn the filter cutoff back and forth quickly with a QLINK, you'll undoubtedly hear the stepping sound I'm referring to.

InspectahEX wrote:havent experienced this but i can see why your frustrated, probably a bug or something in the sw

I know exactly what it is. The QLINK's have 128 discreet steps. The filter range is probably about 20hz to 20khz. If you divide that range by 128 you get something like 156hz steps. So each position in the knob causes the filter to jump 156hz skipping over all of the frequencies in that range. For example if you had the filter cutoff set at 100hz and you move one step up with the QLINK it would cause the filter to jump to 256hz skipping all the frequencies between 100hz and 256hz.

What normally is done is called controller smoothing. When the knob says hey jump up 156hz from here the smoothing causes the filter to smoothly travel through all 156hz of that step up to the next position. So it sounds smooth and doesn't move in jumps or steps (hence stepping)

They have it in their VST plugins so they just need to add it to the sampler.

To take it a step further and allow full range with the QLINK, you could hold shift to move in smaller increments while turning the QLINK.

I have mentioned this a while back but it was given no attention.

labcoats wrote:I have mentioned this a while back but it was given no attention.

Which is why I brought it up again. This isn't a feature request, the sampler filters are
"BROKEN" and need to be fixed.

just watched the vid: damn...

Airyck wrote:

labcoats wrote:I have mentioned this a while back but it was given no attention.

Which is why I brought it up again. This isn't a feature request, the sampler filters are
"BROKEN" and need to be fixed.

Its good that your mentioning it. I find it frustrating a lot of stuff in the Ren is poorly implemented. Im wary of posting all the stuff I notice becasue I don't think my concerns will be given any attention.


automating the filters is unusable for me. Its not just assigning them to a Q Link, I also hear stepping when mousing. It seems a universal thing in the Ren. For example delay parameters increase by divisions of 20ms. I've been informed that's totally sufficient. Of course its not. Peeps were editing digital delays back in the 80s by the millisecond (and less) aka Bel BD80, Lexicon etc.

yes needs sorting out pronto not good

We need it. You can hear it if you assing QLinks to tuning, too :-/