Cheap sub for hs50s?

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Cheap sub for hs50s?

By wudsiba Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:03 pm
Finally got the scratch together to get a decent pair of studio moniters. (I've been using old stereo speakers driven by an old 15 watt radio shack amp for years.) I'd like to get a sub woofer, but the yamaha one is just too expensive right now. Plus I live in an apartment, so I don't need to bring thunder to my neighbors. That being said, they won't mind a little rattling. Can you plug the out of the hs50s to any sub, or do they have to mach? Any ideas on a specific model? I need to keep it under $200. Hopefully @ $150. Thanks in advance...
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Re: Cheap sub for hs50s?

By AntonPD Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:27 pm
you could try looking up the specs of the yamaha one, and go from there
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Re: Cheap sub for hs50s?

By konc3pt Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:31 pm
Have you considered the HS80M? They are couple hundred more than 50s, have bigger driver n for your apartment space you might find yourself not needing sub with 8" monitors. Could be challenge finding quality pro grade sub within that budget.
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Re: Cheap sub for hs50s?

By Lampdog Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:58 pm
Mid to small apartment, 75 watt RMS w/ a higher peak is fine.
Crossover, auto off, 8 inch minimum, low freq at least 30-35hz and it's fine. Doesn't have to be pro grade imo.
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Re: Cheap sub for hs50s?

By wudsiba Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:21 pm
Nice. Thanks a lot... One more thing. What cables would I need for this? Do I use the out from each speaker or just one? 1/4" to RCA?
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Re: Cheap sub for hs50s?

By konc3pt Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:23 pm
yo lamp you're more knowledgable than I am :wink: I was saying in the price range he most likely find 8" sub, IMO it'd be better to get the hs80m with 8" driver, that's two "8 versus single "8-10" on subwoofer

I got cheapo yamaha sub in my surround system, while it does the job, I get unwanted frequencies in the midrange from the subs operating range.

I just dont know if settling for cheaper monitors and cheapo sub is something I'd recommend just to have sub in my setup. I'd rather get something quality from the start that can hold the torch for yrs IMO

wudsiba wrote:Nice. Thanks a lot... One more thing. What cables would I need for this? Do I use the out from each speaker or just one? 1/4" to RCA?


I believe typical pro sub or semi pro sub has the connections you need, set of two TRS or 1/4 inputs & outputs that you'd run your interface outputs into then from there you'd run subs 1/4 outputs to your monitors inputs

like this
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Re: Cheap sub for hs50s?

By Lampdog Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:55 pm
Yep, konc3pt is right.

I have krk10 and it knocks hard, shakes the whole top floor, but I don't think it's what you want for your situation you described, lol. But yeah, that sub pic looks to have a good set of features on it.
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Re: Cheap sub for hs50s?

By wudsiba Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:33 pm
Decent. I thank you gentlemen.
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Re: Cheap sub for hs50s?

By Lampdog Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:32 pm
http://www.m-audio.com/images/global/ma ... G_EN01.pdf

Decent specs there. 50hz, I'd prefer lower but I'm a bass junkie so don't mind me.

I've read in a few places this one has a unshielded power supply. If true that could possibly introduce hum into the audio, not good. Everything else reads very good. Maybe a bit powerful. Depending on how thin/thick the walls are neighbors will feel it too (it's 10in 240 watts). It's GONNA thump :lol: (you don't have to turn it up all the way).

pg 3 in the manual wrote:Versatile Crossover
You can use the BX10s in a variety of monitoring contexts, from 2-channel to
multichannel (e.g., 5.1) systems, and as an accompaniment to practically any directfield
monitors. To this end, we’ve provided a versatile yet efficient way to tailor
the response of the subwoofer to work well in any typical monitoring system.
For use in a 2-channel system, there is a linked high-pass/low-pass filter control
that allows you to adjust the crossover frequency. You can set it anywhere from
50Hz to 200Hz. It splits the signal by routing everything below that frequency
to the subwoofer and everything above it to your main monitors. And by using a
4th-order Linkwitz-Riley topology, the circuit enables you to achieve the flattest
net response through the crossover point. For multichannel systems, the BX10s
can reproduce just the output of the LFE (low-frequency effects) channel, or it
can reproduce the bass from some or all of the main channels using conventional
multichannel bass management schemes. In this multichannel context, you can
simply “open up” the BX10s fully by setting it to 200Hz (for use with external
bass managers), or you can set it to 120Hz (to comply with the Dolby Digital
standard for the LFE band limit). Further, there’s a 10dB boost switch that allows
you to migrate easily between your calibrated 2-channel and 5.1-channel Dolby
Digital levels.
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Re: Cheap sub for hs50s?

By konc3pt Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:51 pm
Good info Lamp! I'd still take Krk over any maudio joint
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Re: Cheap sub for hs50s?

By Lampdog Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:02 am
Yeah but for around $150, that will exactly cover 1 KRK RP6G2 se monitor that I have:lol: A krk sub for that amount is outta the question.
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Re: Cheap sub for hs50s?

By wudsiba Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:40 am
So I got the HS50ms the other day and have them all set up. I really like them, but I'll deffinately need a sub. I have to say the sound really took a few days to get used to. I could feel my ears perking up. Like I was using muscles that were very weak. Really put a strain on my ears for a minute. Really shows me how much I needed moniters instead of speakers. You can really hear everything, like it or not.

LAMP: I really want to get that first sub you pointed out, but I really don't get how to hook it up. If you look at the back of the HS50 moniter, there are no outputs... Weird. If you look at the sub, there are inputs and outputs. Old school speaker wire and rca. How exactly would I hook it up? Right now I've got my MV going into the Fantom, and the fantom outs are going directly to the moniters. No mixer. I'd like to keep it this way if I can. Sorry to hound, I just don't get it.
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Re: Cheap sub for hs50s?

By Lampdog Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:32 am
Audio interface has 2 mono channels -> sub inputs.
Sub has 2 mono outputs -> to 2 monitors.

the bx10s manual wrote:You can set it anywhere from 50Hz to 200Hz. It splits the signal by routing everything below that frequency
to the subwoofer and everything above it to your main monitors.


80hz is normal listening. I have mine set at 80hz also. Everything below goes to the sub and above goes to my monitors.

http://www.m-audio.com/images/global/ma ... G_EN01.pdf

Page 3-4 tells you how to setup the sub, it's exactly as I said above.
Every studio sub I've seen hooks up this same way.

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