Talk and share knowledge on rare records, sources of new samples, vinyl, diggin, etc
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By n4l Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:30 pm
Last summer I found bossa nova for the first time and was listening it for a while but I kinda kinda forgot the whole thing when summer ended until now when I watched Brazilintime documentary and I was wondering if you could recommend any good brazilian artists to listen.
What I really like about the brazilian music is the rhythm and I'd like to catch patterns to my own music and learn something about it.
To be honest all the bossa nova I've heard is from the Madlib's brazil mixtape,
mainly because it's so hard to start building musical knowledge about certain genre starting from the ground floor.
By galganael Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:36 pm
Check out El Guincho, he makes some pretty dope tracks. Uses a lot of samples avalanche style. Here are a couple.



By anaozao Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:45 pm
Look for João Gilberto, he's basically the father of bossa nova!
By anaozao Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:46 pm
galganael wrote:Check out El Guincho, he makes some pretty dope tracks. Uses a lot of samples avalanche style. Here are a couple.





El Guincho is nice, but the guy is Spanish! :wink:
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By n4l Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:23 pm
Thanks galganael, but I'm looking something from 60s and 70s.

Music in this direction;





Check the Madlib's Flight to Brazil album to understand what I'm after, I was really playing it all the time in the summer.
By mastasteez Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:47 pm
n4l wrote: I watched Brazilintime documentary



Yeah that was ill and got me all inspired!
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By Ill-Green Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:24 pm
Man, back in 2000, I was all over the Brazilian music scene for a stint too.

I found, Walter Wanderley, Quarteto Novo, Fabio, Modulo 1000 and Som Imaginario. The first two listed should lead you to the gold mine of other bossa nova artists. :wink:
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By Xandre Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:53 pm
Isn't that Madlib "Flight to Brazil" mix more funk, prog rock and psych oriented? Not much bossa on there, I don't think...

If that sound is what you're after, you're also gonna wanna check out Os Mutantes (for 60's/70's psych) and early Tropicalia artists, like Caetano Veloso, Gilberto Gil and Gal Costa. By that I mean their late 60's albums. Also some Tom Zé for experimental...

For funk, look for Banda Black Rio and Jorge Ben...

Oh, good recommendations, (Ill-Green)...
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By n4l Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:27 pm
Xandre wrote:Isn't that Madlib "Flight to Brazil" mix more funk, prog rock and psych oriented? Not much bossa on there, I don't think...

If that sound is what your after, you're also gonna wanna check out Os Mutantes (for 60's/70's psych) and early Tropicalia artists, like Caetano Veloso, Gilberto Gil and Gal Costa. By that I mean their late 60's albums. Also some Tom Zé for experimental...

For funk, look for Banda Black Rio and Jorge Ben...


Maybe it is, I actually found the Os Mutantes this friday and listened to one of their albums.
Kinda funny that just before I opened the forums and came to this thread I found this:



:smoker: :smoker: !!!
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By n4l Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:31 pm
Seems like many of the Brazilian Psych/Prog Rock LPs are very pricey, why's that?

Edit: Obviously they must have been pressed very limited and I guess they're wanted outside Brazil but could some Brazilian here enlighten if those records are hard to find even there? It would be awesome to get a chance to dig records in Brazil 8)
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By Xandre Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:22 pm
Well, I'm not the best source because I haven't had a chance to actually dig in Brazil, but I'm Brazilian and have been there and can say that those records are pretty rare, even in Brazil... Tropicalia artists like Tom Zé and Caetano Veloso, their early records were banned by the military dictatorship in Brazil so I imagine collectors scooped most of 'em up... They're also not really pop records, (the style of music is more sophisticated) so they may have been pressed in more limited numbers.

Finally, these records, like the ones by Jorge Ben and Os Mutantes; the music on them is straight bangin', so they are highly prized vinyl... wanted worldwide...

That's why, in my view, these records are so rare today -- if anyone else can prove me wrong, please do, because I may not be 100% correct, but it's what I know of my limited knowledge.

Anyway, the universe of Brazilian music is truly wide and beautiful; if you can get your hands on any of the aformentioned vinyls you def. lucked out!

Peace!
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By Xandre Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:07 pm
Here's some dope Brazilian albums to look for:

Tropicália: Panis et Circencis
Soul Jazz Presents Tropicália: A Brazilian Revolution in Sound (Compilation)
Os Mutantes (1968)
Os Mutantes (1969)
Som Imaginário (1970)
Os Diagonais - Cada Um Na Sua (1971)
Dom Salvador E Abolição - Som Sangue E Raça (1971)
Tom Zé (1972)
Tom Zé - Estudando O Samba (1976)
Tom Zé - Estudando O Pagode (2005)
Módulo 1000 - Não Fale Com Paredes
Jorge Ben - A Tábua de Esmeralda (1974)
Jorge Ben - Africa Brasil (1976)
Cassiano - Cuban Soul 18 Kilates (1976)
Banda Black Rio - Maria Fumaça (1977)
Banda Black Rio - Saci Pererê (1980)



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By Ill-Green Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:16 pm
I have only one Os Mutantes, the cover is like green tinted and one dude in a dracula outfit. I didn't like that album much, only played it once though like 10 years ago.

I'll say all psych records from South America are rare. It was "gringo music" and most governments at the time destroyed the music because of propaganda bullshit.

I was lucky to hear the stuff because when I first moved to my apartment in Puerto Rico, I lived across from a keyboardist from Brazil who is like 66 yrs. We became friends when I was playing some notes on my little piano and he recognized the tune. We smoked herb everyday and one day he showed me his record collection, amazing shit he had from Brazil, I wanted to rob him if he wasn't so cool, this was way before Madlib's excavation. Anyway, he would lend me one record a day where I would listen and burn it to CD and return then return it. That friendship lasted for a year until he moved to Las Vegas.